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To: kosta50
As I said before (and I don't mean this in any derogatory or insulting manner), let the one who lives 100% according to the Bible, who keeps all commandments, fasts without a fail, lives a spotless Christian life, etc. lecture me about faith.

You must have a remarkably holy priest and bishop, or do you duck out during the homily? Do you really believe that even the Harps of the Spirit, who in council spoke infallibly in the Acta of the Ecumenical Councils lived up to that prescription?

BTW, there is a notable story of a hesychast who was vouchsafed to see the Uncreated Light without retreating to a monastery, and a recent convert at that--a cross-country trucker from Eastern Kentucky, who prayed the Jesus prayer in his rig (though I guess the interstates are a kind of desert). That he had received the grace only came to light when he innocently asked Fr. Thomas Hopko why he no longer saw it.

I guess that should be an encouragement to those of us living in the world to pray more, and more fervently.

6,702 posted on 01/18/2007 5:30:22 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: The_Reader_David; annalex; kosta50

It seems to me that the protestant penchant for dividing and confusing has worked.

There's still enough crazy-eyed protestant innovation being bandied about here that might best be answered in unison...


6,704 posted on 01/18/2007 5:34:01 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: The_Reader_David; kawaii
You must have a remarkably holy priest and bishop, or do you duck out during the homily

They may be holy, I don't know. I hope they don't judge as most people do. You would know what I mean if you read Tolstoy's "Three Little Hermits."

I have no reason to duck during homily. Mercy, humility, purity of heart, etc. are things that are mentioned at homilies. It's all good. If we had all those characteristics, the world would be a much better place.

BTW, there is a notable story of a hesychast who was vouchsafed to see the Uncreated Light without retreating to a monastery

And +Symeon the Theologian says "I neither fasted, nor kept vigils, nor slept on bare ground, but — to borrow the Psalmist's words — 'I humbled myself' and, in short, 'the Lord saved me.'" ("On Faith," Philokalia, Vol. IV, p. 16)

It's not where you are physically, but where you are spiritually that counts, TRD. It's not the vestments or how much tithe you pay, or if you have memorized the Bible in three languages, but if you have attained the likeness of Christ that makes the difference; in other words, what you have become, so that you may receive grace.

6,710 posted on 01/18/2007 7:21:15 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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