[wmfights]

So you believe that the gift of GRACE is not a gift and must be paid for?

What could you possibly pay to buy the right to be with GOD for eternity?

[D-fendr]

Grace is from God to us according to His wishes, we have responsibility for our actions.

What I object to is separating faith from our moral responsibility, acting with integrity according to our conscience.

And I think it's harmful to look for formulas derived therefrom to get to heaven.