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To: wmfights
for you the free gift of GRACE through FAITH is not enough for you to be saved. You believe you must do something to pay for this gift?

I just do what the Bible tells me. The gift is given -- we cannot pay for it even if we wanted to. But works are necessary in order for one to be saved by that gift.

even your church believed the "rock" was faith in Jesus not Peter.

"On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church" is a completely Catholic statement. Why is it even controversial?

6,734 posted on 01/18/2007 12:07:22 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
"On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church" is a completely Catholic statement. Why is it even controversial?

I have only been Catholic around 12 years, so I am diffient about commenting, but I htink the usual breakdown is that RCs say Jesus meant He was building His Church on Peter, while Protestants (certainly that's the way it was in my seminary) say it was built on Faith.

6,735 posted on 01/18/2007 12:21:56 PM PST by Mad Dawg ('Shut up,' he explained.)
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To: annalex
But works are necessary in order for one to be saved by that gift.

So you must pay for this gift. If the gift is contingent upon you doing works to receive it how is it a gift?

6,736 posted on 01/18/2007 12:25:41 PM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: annalex

The works are part of the gift. The merit from the works is part of the gift.


6,737 posted on 01/18/2007 12:27:03 PM PST by Mad Dawg ('Shut up,' he explained.)
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