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To: adiaireton8

I was not referring to the term, but the idea or teaching of it. Once again, either the fruit of the vine the bread are literally Christ's blood and flesh, or they are symbols. There is no direct teaching, or implication, that a change in substance but not in the actual physical characteristics of the elements takes place.


38 posted on 12/06/2006 9:48:23 AM PST by jkl1122
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To: jkl1122
Once again, either the fruit of the vine the bread are literally Christ's blood and flesh, or they are symbols.

We believe that the wine and bread literally (i.e. actually, truly, in fact) become Christ's blood and body.

There is no direct teaching, or implication, that a change in substance but not in the actual physical characteristics of the elements takes place.

That's not true. The teaching is present materially, though not formally. You may not be able to discern that teaching without the help of the Magisterium.

-A8

39 posted on 12/06/2006 9:55:52 AM PST by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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