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To: Dr. Eckleburg
thanks for your link there, but it says in his answer:

Baptism is not man's testimony or sign of what he the man has done. Baptism is God's testimony to man of what God does, when and where he pleases, to wash sinners from the filth and guilt of their sins.

so he is saying that Baptism does wash away sins, including original sin.

Very interesting in how he phrases that!

Baptism is God's testimony to man of what God does, when and where he pleases, to wash sinners from the filth and guilt of their sins.

two things:

#1 - so men who have been baptized are (at least temporarily) freed from sin, including original sin.

#2 - God "when and where he pleases" could wash sinners free from sin -- even before they were born. Agree?

204 posted on 12/11/2006 12:04:29 PM PST by Nihil Obstat (viva il papa)
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To: Nihil Obstat
God ordained some men to be acquitted of their sins by Christ's atonement and He chose some men to leave in condemnation.

Unless men save themselves.

And you highlighted only half of the important line in the link --

"Baptism is not man's testimony or sign of what he the man has done. Baptism is God's testimony to man of what God does, when and where he pleases, to wash sinners from the filth and guilt of their sin

Just as the the Old Testament circumcision did not "wash away sins" but was ordained by God as a sign of one's faith and obedience to God, likewise, baptism itself does not wash away anything. Baptism, as the statement explains, is a "testimony or sign" of what God has done -- redeemed His sheep by Christ's death and resurrection.

Here's an excellent link if you're interested...

CALVIN ON BAPTISM

220 posted on 12/11/2006 12:25:16 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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