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To: Hodar
God allegedly sends a prophet to earth (Fatima, in this case).

The Blessed Virgin Mary chooses to appear to three children in Fatima, Portugal. Amongst other things, the Virgin tells the children three secrets. Sister Lucy was the longest-lived of the visionaries.

The prophet delivers a message,

The Blessed Virgin later appeared to Sister Lucy as an adult and tells her to write down the Third Secret. (By this time the first two were already known: the rise of Communist Russia, and the Second World War.)

and God's church decides that they know better than God,

The Blessed Virgin's instruction is that the cloistered Sister Lucy should tell the world the Third Secret at this time. Sister Lucy writes it down and gives it to her bishop. He won't open the envelope. He sends it to the Pope. The Pope won't open the envelope. Sister Lucy says that the Pope should open the envelope and tell the world the secret either upon her death or by 1960, whichever comes first. When 1960 arrives, the Pope is making plans for the Second Vatican Council, to adapt the Catholic Church to the modern world.

and choose to suppress the prophet's message.

When 1960 arrives, the Pope does open the envelope, but refuses to tell the secret to the world. Subsequent popes likewise keep the secret hidden -- until June 26, 2000 when the Vatican releases what it says is the full text of the Third Secret. But some have raised doubts about the text released -- saying either that it was not the actual Third Secret, or that it was not the complete Third Secret.

The book described here is by one of the doubters.

5 posted on 12/15/2006 9:02:11 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for new essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: Hodar
(By this time the first two were already known: the rise of Communist Russia, and the Second World War.)

My error. The first secret was a vison of Hell, and the second was about the rise of Communist Russia, predicting a second World War.

8 posted on 12/15/2006 9:31:23 PM PST by Dajjal (See my FR homepage for new essay about Ahmadinejad.)
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To: Dajjal

"to adapt the Catholic Church to the modern world. "

Which, of course, was exactly the wrong thing to do, and is still having disastrous consequences.

Satan wears silk "Vatican II" pajamas by Prada.


10 posted on 12/15/2006 9:51:27 PM PST by dsc
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To: Dajjal; Hodar; Jaysun
That's not how history records it. At Lucia's sundance festival in 1917, well before the Communization of Russia, she supposedly receives a message from her vision that if enough rosaries are prayed by the faithful, then Russia will be catholicized.

None of the faithful Catholics are told about this vision until 1941 when Lucia becomes a nun. According to Lucia, she was told in 1917, that if the vision's "requests are heeded, Russia will be converted." Well ---- what happened for 24 years? How could the faithful pray the rosary for Russia's catholicization, unless they knew of the request by the vision? And no one knew about it until 1942 when it was released by Cardinal Schuster on the orders of Pius XII.

Why then? Why not sooner? Didn't beleaguered Russia need catholicization before 1942? How could poor Russia be helped without all those rosaries that no one knew to pray because Lucia kept it all a secret?

What was so special about the date of its release in 1942? It wouldn't have anything to do with the Vatican's hopes for prayers and rosaries on behalf of the German Wehrmacht's successful "crusade" into the heart of Russia taking place at that time, would it? Let's see, is that the third secret or the fourth secret?

21 posted on 12/16/2006 5:10:38 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Dajjal
The Blessed Virgin's instruction is that the cloistered Sister Lucy should tell the world the Third Secret at this time....
Sister Lucy writes it down and gives it to her bishop. He won't open the envelope....
He sends it to the Pope. The Pope won't open the envelope....
When 1960 arrives, the Pope does open the envelope, but refuses to tell the secret to the world....
Subsequent popes likewise keep the secret hidden...

Could this be the apostacty that the Blessed Virgin feared? Those at the top of the Church refused to do as Mary wished and thought they knew best.

36 posted on 12/16/2006 11:33:30 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (This is my tagline. There are many like it but this one is mine.)
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To: Dajjal; Hodar
When 1960 arrives, the Pope does open the envelope, but refuses to tell the secret to the world. Subsequent popes likewise keep the secret hidden -- until June 26, 2000 when the Vatican releases what it says is the full text of the Third Secret.

OK, I guess it it the various Popes who decided that they knew better than Mary. IOW they weren't sold on the whole idea of the authenticity of Fatima??????
47 posted on 12/16/2006 2:10:58 PM PST by OLD REGGIE (I am most likely a Biblical Unitarian? Let me be perfectly clear. I know nothing.)
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