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To: sionnsar
My only question, is how far off the rails does the Anglican Church have to get until he realizes he has to leave? A good childhood friend tried to go to an ELCA seminary, only to discover they were no longer teaching Christianity, but a form of Manichism.

Yet he stays in the ELCA because that is what he is comfortable with. They have abortion as part of the health plan, but he is comfortable. He says he can't be LCMS because of some slight a pastor once did to a distant family member (of which he doesn't see why it was done that way), but he remains in a church that has little problem with infanticide and sodomy.

Christ doesn't call us to be comfortable. Christ didn't die on the cross for us to be comfortable and at peace with the world. I can understand the difficulty of admitting that the communion you grew up in or joined has left Christianity, but if you are a Christian you have realize that at some point, you can't remain in communion with those who no longer believe in Christ.

At one point, you have to be grown up enough to realize that you are putting your soul in danger that way.
12 posted on 12/23/2006 8:48:45 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
My only question, is how far off the rails does the Anglican Episcopal Church have to get until he realizes he has to leave?

I think there is more than one factor involved. One is "how far off the rails", another is "just when to jump", for example. When enough factors come together strongly enough, people do leave.

13 posted on 12/23/2006 8:54:18 AM PST by sionnsar (?trad-anglican.faithweb.com?|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: redgolum
I held on as long as I could in the ELCA, as a life-long ALC member. Finall, a year ago September, I realized that I was a stranger in a strange land, a land not of my comfort or beliefs. Had there been any chance of changing my congregation, I would have stayed, but there are too many who just put their heads down and plod on, trying to imagine that the present hasn't happened.

The transition from the ELCA to the LCMS was a home-coming, not a home-leaving.

16 posted on 12/23/2006 12:34:50 PM PST by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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