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The Character of God’s Words [Septuagint is a Fraud]
The Dean Burgon Society ^ | July, 2005 | H. D. Williams, M.D.

Posted on 01/06/2007 7:13:58 AM PST by Titanites

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To: Titanites

**The Authorized King James Bible has been, and continues to be, the God honored, most accurate, and best English translation of the inspired, inerrant, infallible, and preserved original language words of God.**

I don't think so


it doesn't have all the books! LOL!


21 posted on 01/06/2007 10:57:37 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Titanites

Qualifications of this author?

All I see is medical doctor...........no theology, no nothing.

Hmmmmm.


22 posted on 01/06/2007 10:58:19 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Titanites

Certainly.


23 posted on 01/06/2007 10:58:53 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Invincibly Ignorant; tacticalogic

What happened to the sola scriptura belief that all scripture was inspired.


24 posted on 01/06/2007 11:01:02 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Titanites; nickcarraway; sandyeggo; Lady In Blue; NYer; american colleen; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ...
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25 posted on 01/06/2007 11:04:19 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
What happened to the sola scriptura belief that all scripture was inspired.

For three years now you've not heard that from me.

26 posted on 01/06/2007 11:30:26 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Invincibly Ignorant

I didn't say it had come from you. Do you want me to delete that message?


27 posted on 01/06/2007 11:31:57 AM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Titanites
Dr. DiVietro says: "Scholars lie. In the case of the Septuagint, the lie is not as overt as usual…

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How are Protestants and Catholics to discuss this issue without rancour, when those who consider themselves to be scholars speak with such hostility?

28 posted on 01/06/2007 11:35:00 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Titanites

What timing. Just when I need to change the lining on the bottom of the bird cage, this tripe gets posted. Thank you.


29 posted on 01/06/2007 11:37:12 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Salvation

no need


30 posted on 01/06/2007 11:44:33 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Titanites
At Regensburg, Pope Benedict spoke a little about the Septuagint
Today we know that the Greek translation of the Old Testament produced at Alexandria-- the Septuagint -- is more than a simple (and in that sense perhaps less than satisfactory) translation of the Hebrew text: it is an independent textual witness and a distinct and important step in the history of revelation, one which brought about this encounter in a way that was decisive for the birth and spread of Christianity. A profound encounter of faith and reason is taking place here, an encounter between genuine enlightenment and religion. From the very heart of Christian faith and, at the same time, the heart of Greek thought now joined to faith, Manuel II was able to say: Not to act "with logos" is contrary to God's nature.

31 posted on 01/06/2007 11:46:49 AM PST by syriacus (If 3000 deaths is an indication to "cut and run" Truman, would have abandoned Korea in 5 weeks.)
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To: Titanites

"In addition, we must remember Jerome was opposed to the independence of local churches from Rome represented by the Waldensians."

from Wikipedia: The Waldensians or Vaudois are a Protestant Christian denomination believing in poverty and austerity, founded around 1173, promoting true poverty, public preaching and the literal interpretation of the scriptures. Declared heretical, the movement was brutally persecuted by the Roman Catholic Church during the 12th and 13th centuries and nearly totally destroyed, but the Waldensian Church survives to this day.

There appears to be an apocryphal allegation that the Waldensians are simply the medieval version of certain antinomialists dating back to at least apostolic times. That would be tendentious, I think, but to include this comment as if Jerome personally knew Waldensians, well, that's plain wrong.



32 posted on 01/06/2007 11:49:48 AM PST by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org: Ecce Pactum, id cape aut id relinque)
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To: syriacus

Thank you for posting that. I have the utmost respect for our Pope's scholarly credentials.


33 posted on 01/06/2007 11:51:54 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: syriacus
BENEDICT XVI, GENERAL AUDIENCE Wednesday, 25 May 2005
  Psalm 116[115], Prayer of thanksgiving to the Lord, Evening Prayer

1. Psalm 116[115], which we have just prayed, has always been in use in the Christian tradition, beginning with St Paul who, citing the introduction of the Greek translation of the Septuagint, wrote to the Christians of Corinth: "Since we have the same spirit of faith as he had, who wrote, "I believed, and so I spoke', we too believe, and so we speak" (II Cor 4: 13).


34 posted on 01/06/2007 11:53:11 AM PST by syriacus (If 3000 deaths is an indication to "cut and run" Truman, would have abandoned Korea in 5 weeks.)
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To: Titanites

Given that the whole of the New Testament, excepting perhaps Matthew, was composed in Greek, the attachment of Protestants to the Hebrew text is strange. It is my understanding that the Rabbis decided to adhere to the Hebrew "original" because Christians used the Septuagint, and using Hebrew they could more easily avoid messianic interpretations of Scripture. Come to think of it, the role of the minister in Protestantism is very like that of the Rabbi in the Judaic tradition.


35 posted on 01/06/2007 11:53:46 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: trisham
Thank you for posting that

You are very welcome. I was curious about what he had to say.

36 posted on 01/06/2007 11:55:56 AM PST by syriacus (If 3000 deaths is an indication to "cut and run" Truman, would have abandoned Korea in 5 weeks.)
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To: Salvation

Sorry, not in the scriptures.


37 posted on 01/06/2007 11:56:25 AM PST by AliVeritas (Even if a mother forgets the child of her womb, I will not forget you.)
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To: trisham

The talk of scholars is always rancorous. They hate contradiction and will move heaven and earth to "get" an opponent--so long as it does not put them in personal danger.


38 posted on 01/06/2007 11:57:55 AM PST by RobbyS ( CHI)
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To: AliVeritas

I'm confused. I have always believed that all Holy Scripture was inspired by the Holy Spirit.


39 posted on 01/06/2007 12:02:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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A comparison is to imagine a student in 2005 trying to reconstruct a particular history in 1850 in America without the aid of computers, phones, extensive libraries, airplane travel, and other modern conveniences.

Could be done without too much difficulty if large chunks of the story were handed down carefully from generation to generation. What is that term they use on Antiques' Roadshow?

Oh, yes!! Provenance.

40 posted on 01/06/2007 12:12:50 PM PST by syriacus (If 3000 deaths is an indication to "cut and run" Truman, would have abandoned Korea in 5 weeks.)
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