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To: lightman; Salvation; Kolokotronis; kosta50; Agrarian; FormerLib; aberaussie

In the Orthodox tradition, the Adoration of the Magi is part of the Nativity/Christmass celebration, not Theophany/Epiphany.

The strong Lutheran hymn that encompasses the theme of Orthodox Theophany is "To Jordan Came the Christ our Lord" (LBW 79; I believe that it is in LW as well). The text of most of the verses of the hymn (despite AF's copyright?) is at the bottom of the following Web page:

http://billcork.blogspot.com/2003_01_12_billcork_archive.html


This hymn, with its strong, beautiful tune, give a strong statement of the manifestation of the Holy Trinity--Father, Son, and Holy Spirit--in the Baptism of our Lord. That is also the theme of the troparion and icon for Theophany.

Unfortunately, the new "Evangelical Lutheran Worship" has omitted this hymn!!!! This is a most despicable case of feminazi meddling. Our Lutheran congregation, which now has "ELW" in our pews, sang the silly ditty known as "Wet Saints" as the hymn of the day instead. (I at least was at Serbian Christmas Eve last night, and--serving as Assisting Minister this morning--spoke some prayers for the Orthodox, the Serbian homeland, Kosovo, etc.)

In contrast, the current edition of the evangelical catholic "Lutheran Forum" magazine has the icon for the Orthodox Nativity on the cover, and a good article explaining its significance by a Lutheran iconongrapher. It also has two new GenX editiors, and several articles by under-35 evangelical catholic theologians.

THAT is the direction that the Lutheran church should go, NOT back to the 1970s with the feminazis who were at the center of producing "ELW". It's time to flush the feminazis, their lame and outmoded ideas of what a "hymn" or a "liturgy" is, and their malign influence over "mainline" seminaries down the drain!!!! And its time to start working on restoring Western Orthodoxy amng Lutherans, Roman Catholics, and Anglicans.


28 posted on 01/07/2007 5:18:16 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: lightman; Salvation; Kolokotronis; kosta50; Agrarian; FormerLib; aberaussie

Here's the Orthodox troparion:

When You, O Lord were baptized in the Jordan
The worship of the Trinity was made manifest
For the voice of the Father bore witness to You
And called You His beloved Son.
And the Spirit, in the form of a dove,
Confirmed the truthfulness of His word.
O Christ, our God, You have revealed Yourself
And have enlightened the world, glory to You!

For my Serbian Orthodox FRiends, this is coming up on the 19th! Most other US Orthodox had it yesterday with the Afterfeast today.


29 posted on 01/07/2007 5:24:50 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: Honorary Serb

**Unfortunately, the new "Evangelical Lutheran Worship" has omitted this hymn!!!! **

This has happened to a lot of good Roman Catholic hymns also.


30 posted on 01/07/2007 6:51:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Honorary Serb

Read the thread: The Next Chritianity which I posted a couple days ago.


31 posted on 01/07/2007 6:52:39 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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