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There's your answer (California Catholic Daily reports on a conversation with Archbishop Wuerl)
Open Book ^ | January 14, 2007 | Amy Wellborn

Posted on 01/15/2007 3:27:02 PM PST by NYer

The California Catholic Daily reports on a conversation with Archbishop Wuerl:

Archbishop Donald Wuerl of Washington, D.C., who has come under fire for failing to speak out against Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s attendance Jan. 3 at a Mass at her alma mater, Trinity University, came to San Diego’s Kona Kai Resort the weekend of January 13-14 to speak at an international Communion and Liberation conference.

While in San Diego, Wuerl told California Catholic Daily reporter Allyson Smith that he has no plans to discipline the newly elected Democratic Speaker, who is now the most powerful Catholic in Congress -- and an ardent supporter of abortion, embryonic stem cell research, and pro-homosexual legislation.

Smith: “Did you make any statement last week about Nancy Pelosi going to Mass at Trinity University?”

Wuerl: “That was a matter between the university and Nancy. They were offering their location, and the Mass was celebrated by a priest with faculties, and there was no reason to make any comment.”

Smith: “Do you intend to discipline her at all for being persistent and obstinate about her support for abortion and same-sex marriage?”

Wuerl: “I will not be using the faculty in the manner you have described.”

Smith: “Will you make a statement to your priests and deacons to warn her not to allow her to receive if she presents herself for Communion?”

Wuerl: “You’re talking about a whole different style of pastoral ministry. No.”

I hope the comments on this post are charitable and helpful in tone....

BTW. California Catholic Daily is a new online publication from Jim Holman, owner and publisher of the alt-press San Diego Reader, and apparently replaces the other (four? I think) similar Catholic publications he used to operate.

I think what Archbishop Wuerl and others fail to understand is the impact of things like this on the lay Catholic who is struggling to be a faithful disciple in the world. The message that is sent by silence is strong, in terms of the lay apostolate in the world, in terms of the unity of faith and life.

Nancy Pelosi is not "struggling" with the Church's teaching on abortion, trying to work for the protection of unborn human beings within the constraints of the current U.S. law. As we noted before, she is unapologetically, strongly supportive of abortion-rights and unborn children don't even enter into her radar (publicly, at least) as human beings. The same week she was sworn in as Speaker, NARAL issued this statement:

Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, issued the following statement in commemoration of the historic swearing in of Rep. Nancy Pelosi as the first woman to serve as the Speaker of the House.

"Americans who value freedom and privacy have many reasons to celebrate as Nancy Pelosi takes the Speaker's gavel to make this historic move forward for our country.  For her nearly 20 years in office, Speaker Pelosi has been an effective advocate for women's health and has championed her pro-choice values by consistently voting to protect a woman's right to choose.  In November, voters across this country endorsed Speaker Pelosi's call for a change and new direction by electing 23 new pro-choice members to the U.S. House of Representatives.  Today, we celebrate as Speaker Pelosi takes the reins; under her leadership Americans can expect a new focus on commonsense solutions, not the divisive attacks that marred the previous Congresses."

On January 4, NOW greeted Pelosi with an oversized congratulations card, on the way to a swearing-in brunch. On the way in, Pelosi greeted them:

When Speaker Pelosi passed by, she waved and exclaimed, "Thank you! NOW has always been there for me."

Nancy Pelosi is in a very powerful position, a Catholic, and is working in opposition to a fundamental, moral teaching of her faith: the preciousness of each human life from conception. She lives in a country in which unborn human beings are unprotected by the law, in which the culture, at every level, dehumanizes them, and she, who is in a position to do something about this, in word and deed, does nothing to help the cause of bringing greater awareness of the humanity of the unborn, and works against legal protection and is the hero of organizations that are the activist core arrayed against the humanity of the unborn. There is not a speck of ambiguity here.

Perhaps Archbishop Wuerl is catechizing and attempting to work with "Nancy" in private, and perhaps he didn't mention it because he and/or Archbishop Niederauer are engaged in this private outreach and the questions asked by this reporter did not directly ask him about that. That could well be the case. And certainly "refusing Communion" has become a flashpoint in this kind of situation which has a few alternative approaches.  A real pastor takes every approach he can before getting to the point at which "discipline" is all that is left. Perhaps this is going on or is in the works.

But resting on Archbishop Wuerl's statements alone, which do not indicate that there's anything problematic about Nancy Pelosi's way of living a Catholic life, and which, I admit, simply might be an expression of a reticent style that only answers the questions posed, I'll just say this again.

If this woman, engaged in a public role, very publicly works against the teachings of the Church to which she professes a very public tie isn't publicly challenged by even one of the primary teachers of the Church - the bishops - the rest of us - lay Catholics, living and working in the world, every day facing decisions on how to be faithful disciples of Jesus in the midst of the complexities of our professions, some of us who really suffer because of the things they refuse to do because of their fidelity to Christ - we get a message.

And the message we get is that - it doesn't matter. Do whatever you want. Catholicism isn't about discipleship, about (among other things) living in the truth that every person God chooses to create -  from conception to natural death - is our treasured brother or sister - I'm not sure what it's about, but it evidently isn't about that.

Note: for those of you with the desire to bring capital punishment and the war into this discussion, another thread will be provided for that. This thread is limited to discussions of this particular situation and the implications for laity living out their faith in the world.

Some words of wisdom: (Emphasis mine)

Every responsible person and each follower of Jesus Christ have an obligation to defend and protect innocent human life. This witness can take place in many ways: teaching, non-violent public demonstrations, the legislative process, preaching, outreach to those in crisis pregnancy, care for the disabled and the dying, as well as financial support, prayer and ministry to those who have had an abortion.

If we are to put an effective end to those things that threaten human life, we must work as good citizens in the area of public policy to change laws. But it is also necessary to change hearts and minds as well as laws. Pope John Paul II reminds us that a pro-life educational endeavor must have "as its goal that shift of perception and change of heart which accompany true conversion."

It is said that evil exists when good people do nothing. We must find a way to make our convictions known and effective. For Catholics, the parish community is an ideal context in which to do this and the role of the priest, as leader, places him in a perfect position to reiterate this most basic principle of respect for life. In particular, the homily at appropriate times can be an effective means for communicating this truth. Other opportunities include the regular intentions of the general intercessions, the use of the parish bulletin, parish newsletters and increasingly web sites. The United States bishops offer guidance and a starting point: "We must begin with a commitment never to intentionally kill, or collude in the killing, of any innocent human life, no matter how broken, unformed, disabled or desperate that life may seem."

The proclamation of the gospel of life is not reserved to the parish priest. All of those involved in parish activity and especially the parish staff must be both committed to the message and able to express it in a convincing manner. Given the importance of the gospel of life regular updating sessions to deal with current issues and to review the teaching of the Church would be a valuable resource for all involved in the life of the parish.

We must also incorporate the Church's teachings on social concerns and respect life issues into the mainstream of Catholic education. All those who teach in Catholic schools and religious education programs must become intelligent and clear voices in defense of life. The U.S. bishops remind us that this educational effort must be made at every level. "The commitment to human life and dignity, to human rights and solidarity, is a calling all Catholic educators must share with their students. It is not a vocation for a few religion teachers, but a challenge for every Catholic educator and catechist." Efforts should be made to integrate this teaching into the curriculum of our education programs at every level.

The U.S. bishops also urge parents, as the primary educators of their children, to give priority to the important areas of human sexuality and respect for all human life. The faithful not only have a responsibility to promote life issues in their homes but also in the workplace, the courts and the legislature. The lay faithful are called to give daily witness to respect for life, in family life, public education, government, institutions of health care, and the instruments of mass communication.

Only in this way can these fundamental human values which are rooted in our very nature as the fruit of God's loving creation make an impact on our growing secular world that seems all too comfortable disregarding human dignity and ignoring the basic truth about the true origins, nature and destiny of every human person.

As children of God we must pray and fast for an end to anti-life practices; be active in the political process and elect responsible leaders; assist women facing unintended pregnancies; support with compassion those who suffer from having had an abortion; affirm the lives of the elderly and the disabled; forgive those who have committed grave offenses, and tirelessly promote the truth about the importance of each human person.

Bishop Donald Wuerl, Pastoral Letter to the people of the Church of Pittsburgh, 1999.


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To: I_Like_Spam

Did not know his track record.


41 posted on 01/16/2007 5:20:07 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3rd Bn. 5th Marines, RVN 1969. St. Michael the Archangel defend us in battle!)
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To: All

Here are e-mail addresses for the Holy Father and Papal Nuncio:

bededictxvi@vatican.va

nuntiususa@nuntiususa.org

Reference: Luke 18:1-8


42 posted on 01/16/2007 7:12:54 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: incredulous joe

Dear incredulous joe,

Hope I see you at the March! We should be there, too!

Archbishop Wuerl will be the main speaker at the March for Life.

Archbishop Wuerl is not a cardinal. I don't know when he will be made one, although it's highly likely that it will come sooner or later. Every Archbishop of Washington has been made a cardinal since the archdiocese's separation from the Archdiocese of Baltimore.

Cardinal McCarrick was created cardinal almost immediately after becoming Archbishop of Washington.

Conversely, Cardinal Hickey was made Archbishop of Washington in 1980, but was created a cardinal until 1988.

Many folks wondered why Pope John Paul II waited eight years to make him a cardinal.

Cardinal Baum, who preceded Cardinal Hickey, was appointed in 1973, and created a cardinal in 1976.

Cardinal O'Boyle was appointed archbishop in 1947, but not made a cardinal until 1967, some twenty years later.

Cardinal O'Boyle was the first resident archbishop of the See, and perhaps because it was a brand-new jurisdiction, that was the reason for the wait.

Archbishop Wuerl is 65, so he will likely serve 10+ years here in Washington.


sitetest


43 posted on 01/16/2007 7:26:10 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: livius

Dear livius,

Archbishop Wuerl is a theological conservative, although he is politically an old-time blue collar, labor union Democrat.

Theologically, he is orthodox. However, he doesn't want to fall out with his good friends in the Democrat Party. I've read before that he considers the idea of disciplining politicians over the issue of abortion to be "politicizing" the faith, especially the Blessed Sacrament, should sanctions include exclusion from receiving the Blessed Sacrament.

He believes that lines of communication with politicians of all stripes should be kept open, and believes that cutting off pro-abort Catholic politicians from the Eucharist will only close those lines of communication.

I understand his position, but I disagree. One can maintain the lines of communication, but still insist that those who create public scandal, and give bad example to other Catholics, possibly leading other Catholics into damnable attitudes and behaviors, may not receive the Eucharist.

But Archbishop Wuerl, like Cardinal McCarrick before him, disagrees with this perspective.


sitetest


44 posted on 01/16/2007 7:31:35 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest; incredulous joe
Thank you for your information, and for the information about DC cardinals in the post above that.

I think incredulous joe made a good point, and I realized that is what has been bothering me particularly about this whole thing with Pelosi. He said:

but I believe this thing with Pelosi is a bit of a different animal; while the likes of Kennedy, Kerry, Durbin and Mikulski shuck their faith on and off to serve themselves and their needs, Pelosi is actually trying to change the mindset of American Catholics as being a force for the pro-life cause. Pelosi offers a "Catholic alternative".

Teddy Kennedy doesn't even pretend to be a great Catholic, and doesn't really dwell on it much, but Pelosi does hold herself out as an example and implies that her version of Catholicism, with all the hard parts taken out, is just as good as Rome's. She'd make a fine Episcopalian, but she's not honest enough to do that, and instead is going to devote herself to confusing and misleading Catholics for political purposes.

I think Abp Wuerl has a particular duty to respond to her, even if he wants to give Kennedy et al. a pass.

I noticed that the talk he gave was to Communion and Liberation. My experience with them has been that while they are theologically conservative in some ways, they have retained that bizarre Italian attitude towards politics - left-wing, accomodationist, and not particularly pro-life - and don't seem to see any contradictions with some of their other positions.

46 posted on 01/16/2007 7:49:49 AM PST by livius
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To: Vicomte13

I do think that Catholic Charities quit offering health insurance per se to its employees in California. That's what their press release after the trial announced. I know some very orthodox institutions who had to change their health care insurance after that decision, I don't remember quite how it works, will have to ask my BIL, but the it was in order to avoid the mandated abc coverage. At the time, it was said that that was what Catholic Charities was doing as well.


47 posted on 01/16/2007 8:42:06 AM PST by mockingbyrd (Good heavens! What women these Christians have-----Libanus)
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To: livius

Dear livius,

"I noticed that the talk he gave was to Communion and Liberation. My experience with them... not particularly pro-life..."

Well, Archbishop Wuerl is deeply pro-life. He just doesn't see the contradiction between his pro-life principles and permitting deeply pro-abort Catholic politicians from actively participating in the life of the Church and the sacraments.

Unfortunately, at the grass roots level, at the level of in-the-pew Catholicism, I see the contradiction. I know pro-abort Catholics who go to church and have told me, "Well, heck, the bishops don't do anything about Ted Kennedy or [fill in the blank]. They must not be all THAT serious about it! If they don't do anything to these folks, then it must be true that one can be a good Catholic and still be in favor of a woman's choice."

I think they have a good argument, unfortunately.

It is the bishops, as a group, and bishops like Archbishop Wuerl, who must take the largest portion of blame for the defection of millions of Catholics in the United States on the issue of abortion.

We should pray for our bishops, first that they might become more genuinely Catholic, and second, that God may have mercy on them at their particular judgments.


sitetest


48 posted on 01/16/2007 8:42:14 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

"Well, Archbishop Wuerl is deeply pro-life. He just doesn't see the contradiction between his pro-life principles and permitting deeply pro-abort Catholic politicians from actively participating in the life of the Church and the sacraments."

Then he isn't deeply pro-life, is he?
I'm not giving him a pass.

I want to vote for Rudolph Giuliani, because he's tough on crime and would be tough on terrorists. Also, I think he'd WIN. I liked Giuliani as Mayor of New York, and I think he would be good for the country as President.

But, unless he takes the position that, although deeply pro-choice, he will nominate only strict-constructionists (code word for anti-Roe) judges to the Supreme Court and appellate courts, I will not vote for him. Abortion is an absolute issue.

If I hold myself to that standard, then you can bet your sweet bippy I am going to hold any "archbishop" to that same standard. He has the power, and he does not use it to protect life. He is no pro-life, and he doesn't deserve the fig leaf of protection of his dignity.

He won't do what his duty requires of him.
And it leads others astray.
I am not inclined to give him any fig leaf of respectability here. Why does he deserve it?
He is shirking his duty on the most important moral issue of our time, in the most important see in America.
He's a coward.


49 posted on 01/16/2007 9:17:50 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: sitetest

Good summary. I agree with your observations on this.


50 posted on 01/16/2007 9:20:55 AM PST by livius
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To: sitetest; livius

Here is the Communion and Liberation's website:

http://www.clonline.org/whatiscl.html

Have you read any of the writings of this group's founder? My first reaction to his writings was "cow manure." They sound like papers we used to write in philosophy class to impress the teacher with our grasp of concepts and how we could use the terms in 500 words or less. Anybody who's ever taken philosophy knows exactly what I mean.

This is from the group's website:

“Communion and Liberation is an ecclesial movement whose purpose is the education to Christian maturity of its adherents and collaboration in the mission of the Church in all the spheres of contemporary life… There is no type of membership card, but only the free participation of persons. The basic instrument for the formation of adherents is weekly catechesis, called 'School of Community.’ " Adherents of what? What do they actually believe? Maybe I'm missing something, but it sounds like mumbo-jumbo to me. Plus having the word "liberation" in the group's name sends up a red flag!


51 posted on 01/16/2007 9:21:22 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: NYer

Unfortunately, it appears it's not so much the sin as who does the sinning. How in God's name can the Church lay out its rules and expect regular Catholics to follow them when it turns a blind eye to powerful, high-profile Catholics who promote those same sins, and are in positions of power to enable them?

The Church has enough problems, it doesn't need to enable the likes of Pelosi and the Kennedy's.


52 posted on 01/16/2007 9:25:58 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Vicomte13

Dear Vicomte13,

Yes, I believe that Archbishop Wuerl is deeply pro-life.

I understand that you'd like to vote for Mr. Giuliani, but I think that your comments with regard to Mr. Giuliani aren't especially relevant to Archbishop Wuerl.

There is a critical difference between Archbishop Wuerl and Mr. Giuliani: Archbishop Wuerl believes that abortion should be banned by law; Mr. Giuliani believes that the "right" to abortion is guaranteed by the United States Constitution.

If you'd like to argue that some of Archbishop Wuerl's actions (or lack of action, in this case) work against his belief and desire that abortion should be banned by law, well, gee whiz, that's what I said.

However, I don't think that Archbishop Wuerl would agree with me (or you). I think that he believes that his method is the best way to ultimately persuade pro-abort Catholics to come back to a pro-life position. I think he's wrong. But I think he thinks it, nonetheless.

I believe that he's deeply pro-life. But I think he's also wrong in what he's doing in this regard.

"He won't do what his duty requires of him."

I agree. I think I more or less implied that.

"And it leads others astray."

I agree. I think I actually said that pretty explicitly.

"I am not inclined to give him any fig leaf of respectability here."

I don't think I gave him much of a fig leaf, if any. I said that he and like-minded bishops are responsible for the "largest portion of blame for the defection of millions of Catholics in the United States on the issue of abortion."

"He is shirking his duty on the most important moral issue of our time, in the most important see in America."

I agree. I think that's what I said.

"He's a coward."

I don't know whether or not he's a coward. He may be. Or not. He may sincerely believe that his approach is the right one, on principled grounds. However, I wouldn't be surprised if his views aren't at least partially colored by the desire to be accepted by a certain sort.

And that would be at least tinged with a bit of cowardice.


sitetest


53 posted on 01/16/2007 9:40:40 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: NYer

This lack of conviction makes me want to cry.


54 posted on 01/16/2007 10:20:50 AM PST by USArmySpouse
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To: NYer
Wuerl: “You’re talking about a whole different style of pastoral ministry. No.”

Wow. Bishop, you win the "Profiles in Cowardice" award.
55 posted on 01/16/2007 10:31:59 AM PST by Antoninus ( Rudy McRomney as the GOP nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media loves them?)
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To: incredulous joe; sitetest

Well, you make some good points. I'm willing to wait and see because the Archbishop may possibly have misunderstood the situation or may have been somewhat misreported.

But I won't wait too long. If this becomes a pattern, then he is going to lose the support of faithful Catholics in the Church.

If, as Sitetest says, he will be the speaker at the next pro-life rally, then sooner or later, and preferably sooner, he is going to have to decide whether he will speak up for the Catholic faith of which he is a shepherd, or whether he will fail to do his public duty.

This isn't easy. The Archbishop of Washington, DC, is obviously under more political pressure than most. But that just means that the bishop has to stand up more than most to the pressures of his job. He's going to be in the spotlight, and we'll soon see what kind of a job he does.


56 posted on 01/16/2007 10:34:11 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Dear Cicero,

"Well, you make some good points. I'm willing to wait and see because the Archbishop may possibly have misunderstood the situation or may have been somewhat misreported."

I don't think so.

Then-Bishop Wuerl identified himself as a partisan of the viewpoint of Cardinal McCarrick concerning pro-abort Catholic politicians - which is that no sanction should be taken against them.

It'd be nice if he reversed course, but no one should hold his breath.


sitetest


57 posted on 01/16/2007 11:08:11 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

I'll be watching what happens, but I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that I already know what will happen.

Here's to hoping I am wrong!


58 posted on 01/16/2007 11:08:40 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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To: Vicomte13

Dear Vicomte13,

"I'll be watching what happens, but I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that I already know what will happen.

"Here's to hoping I am wrong!"

I don't think that you're wrong to think that Archbishop Wuerl will continue to neglect his duty to publicly sanction pro-abort Catholics.

I just don't think that means he isn't pro-life.

It just means that he doesn't understand (whether unwittingly or not) the consequences of his actions.


sitetest


59 posted on 01/16/2007 11:17:26 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Has Wuerl ever disciplined ANY Catholic on abortion issues?


60 posted on 01/16/2007 11:20:07 AM PST by Vicomte13 (Aure entuluva.)
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