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To: ducdriver; blue-duncan
"That Saint Augustine was converted through reading Scripture has no bearing on the fact that he understood it to be the Church that gave authority to Scripture."

The Church does not give authority to scripture. It is God's word that does and that's what Augustine recognized.

" It was the Church itself that decided on the books that went into the New Testament!"

Just as the Apostles recognized God, by what He had to say, so to did the men who read his words since then. The books of the NT are written by apostles and their associates. They were not written by Church members throughout the ages.

121 posted on 01/24/2007 9:02:39 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

So, if Jesus wanted Scripture to be the rule of faith, why did he leave us a Church, and not a Bible? He could have written the New Testament himself, could he not?

How can you say the Church doesn't have the authority to determine which writings are Sared Scripture, when it was the Church herself that decided what books went into Scripture? Your circular reasoning is astonishing.


127 posted on 01/24/2007 9:32:44 PM PST by ducdriver ("Impartiality is a pompous name for indifference, which is an elegant name for ignorance." GKC)
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To: spunkets

Just as the Apostles recognized God, by what He had to say, so to did the men who read his words since then. The books of the NT are written by apostles and their associates. They were not written by Church members throughout the ages.

>>But the Church decided upon which books were spurious and which were products of divine inspiration in the 4th century. If it wasn't for the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have the New Testament you take for granted. Maybe you should be reading Thomas, Peter, Judas and Bartholemew instead of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. What authority do you have to say the neo-Gnostics are wrong about what books belong in the Bible?

>>All you have is your own private interpretation. The canon of Scripture is Tradition with a big T. Its definition came from God through the Church.


138 posted on 01/24/2007 10:26:42 PM PST by Joseph DeMaistre (There's no such thing as relativism, only dogmatism of a different color)
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