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To: Campion

I was responding to the observation that other churches have leaders who haven't been altogether moral.

When was the most recent ecumenical council?

When did the last Apostle die? (Hint: Robert Duval doesn't count.:>)


57 posted on 01/25/2007 8:50:12 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: xzins
When was the most recent ecumenical council? When did the last Apostle die?

What difference does it make?

58 posted on 01/25/2007 8:51:59 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: xzins

>> I was responding to the observation that other churches have leaders who haven't been altogether moral. When was the most recent ecumenical council? When did the last apostle die?<<

But to answer your question anyway...

The last ecumenical council was the 21st, the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965). While many well-known documents are not on the subject of doctrine, but of governance, several documents are doctrinal, and have been accepted as such by the Pope. The prior councils have been 1870, 1545-1563, 1512-1517, 1414-1418, etc.


126 posted on 01/25/2007 1:05:26 PM PST by dangus
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To: xzins

>> I was responding to the observation that other churches have leaders who haven't been altogether moral. When was the most recent ecumenical council? When did the last apostle die?<<

But to answer your question anyway...

The last ecumenical council was the 21st, the Second Vatican Council (1962-1965). While many well-known documents are not on the subject of doctrine, but of governance, several documents are doctrinal, and have been accepted as such by the Pope. The prior councils have been 1870, 1545-1563, 1512-1517, 1414-1418, etc.

The last apostle is believed to have been St. John the evangelist, the only apostle not to be martyred. However, apostolic authority was bestowed by a laying on of hands by the apostles to their successors, the bishops. Such bishops do not have the graces of public revelation, and so have not authored scripture, nor created infallible doctrine. Catholic doctrine does, in fact, hold that all doctrine must be a product of public revelation, and no such revelation has occurred since the days of the apostles. Further, the only certifiably authentic public revelations are revealed in scripture. Hence, the only discrepancy between Catholic doctrine and Sola Scriptura is that the Church maintains that Tradition has preserved the proper understanding of the meaning of scripture.


127 posted on 01/25/2007 1:11:09 PM PST by dangus
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