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To: Kolokotronis; adiaireton8
Is that the new Romish notion of what communion is?

Watch where you tread, using such language, for the sake of your Irish ancestors.

You really should read the Vatican I decree, A.

Do you mean the Vatican I that says the following?

5. This power of the Supreme Pontiff by no means detracts from that ordinary and immediate power of episcopal jurisdiction, by which bishops, who have succeeded to the place of the apostles by appointment of the Holy Spirit, tend and govern individually the particular flocks which have been assigned to them. On the contrary, this power of theirs is asserted, supported and defended by the Supreme and Universal Pastor; for St. Gregory the Great says: "My honor is the honor of the whole Church. My honor is the steadfast strength of my brethren. Then do I receive true honor, when it is denied to none of those to whom honor is due." [51]

Vatican I, Session 4, Chapter 3 (Source: http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/V1.HTM

62 posted on 02/04/2007 1:56:28 PM PST by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480; TexConfederate1861
"Do you mean the Vatican I that says the following?

5. This power of the Supreme Pontiff by no means detracts from that ordinary and immediate power of episcopal jurisdiction, by which bishops, who have succeeded to the place of the apostles by appointment of the Holy Spirit, tend and govern individually the particular flocks which have been assigned to them. On the contrary, this power of theirs is asserted, supported and defended by the Supreme and Universal Pastor; for St. Gregory the Great says: "My honor is the honor of the whole Church. My honor is the steadfast strength of my brethren. Then do I receive true honor, when it is denied to none of those to whom honor is due." [51]

Indeed I do. I should have posted it. It adds such a surreal flavor to the decrees. The cited passage, coming as it does right after the anathema I cited, is an example of disingenuousness on a scale seldom seen outside papal proclamations. To call upon the memory of +Gregory the Great, a pope and a saint who rejected the term "Universal Bishop" is truly beyond the pale. I wonder if the Vatican I bishops thought they were fooling anyone with that?
65 posted on 02/04/2007 2:09:53 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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