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To: Eagle Eye
"You are just in open defiance and rejection of the Bible on this!"

I am in open defiance of, and reject what you say. I do not reject what the Bible says.

" God is invisible"

No, Eagle eye is invisible.

" Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"

Jesus.

" God is spirit"

I am spirit.

" John 4:24, "God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

John 4:19
"Sir," the woman said, "I can see that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem."

Jesus declared, "Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth."

The woman said, "I know that Messiah is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us."

Then Jesus declared, "I who speak to you am he."

Oh, look! Isaiah identifies God as the Messiah.

Isaiah 63:1-5
Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
"It is I, speaking in righteousness,
mighty to save."

Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?

"I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.

For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and the year of my redemption has come.

I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm worked salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.

" God is not a man"

John 1:1-5
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

"Num 23:19 God [is] not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do [it]? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?"

You're calling God a sinner. Let's see...

Hebrews 4:15
"For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet was without sin."

Maybe since Paul's, just a man, and thus a sinner, he lied here right?

"Matthew 3:17
"And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.""

Maybe God was pleased, because Jesus didn't sin that much, or just was never caught in sin? Maybe Abraham thought the same thing? John 8:56, "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."

Re: God is His own mediator, and His own right hand man. That's clear in the Bible, as I pointed out.

"Sorry, the Bible simply says you're wrong on that.

Not the least bit wrong. From Isaiah 63:5, "my own arm worked salvation for me!"

"1Ti 2:5 For [there is] one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;"

Oh look! There's more! 1 Tim 2:5,
"For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men—the testimony given in its proper time."

The man Christ Jesus, the Messiah, God's own arm, worked salvation. From Isaiah 63:1, "It is I, speaking in righteousness, mighty to save." Maybe Jesus was just a talking arm?

123 posted on 02/06/2007 1:43:26 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

I see you've missed the mothership.


128 posted on 02/06/2007 3:55:56 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: spunkets

One miistry of the Holy Spirit is the empowering of the believer to memorize Scripture and recall it as in photographic memory when the situation arises for it's utility. Great post.


142 posted on 02/06/2007 6:28:12 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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