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To: Diego1618
"The reason for this is that the Trinity doctrine was not taught by the early Church....nor the Apostles."

Looks like you're wrong about the Apostles and the Early Church, since the Early Church is the Apostles.

John 1:1-5, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning.

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

Matt 28:18-20
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

All you've posted is Paul, James and Peter addressing Persons of the Trinity. You left out the introduction to John's Gospel, but you seem to know about John's epistle, where He addresses Persons of the Trinty.

Looks like Isaih identifies the Holy Spirit as God also.

Isaih 63:1-2 Then his people recalled the days of old,
the days of Moses and his people—
where is he who brought them through the sea,
with the shepherd of his flock?
Where is he who set
his Holy Spirit among them,

who sent his glorious arm of power
to be at Moses' right hand,
who divided the waters before them,
to gain for himself everlasting renown,

Isaiah also desribes God on the cross it was His day of redemption. He identifies Jesus, as God.

Isaiah 63:1-6
Who is this coming from Edom,
from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson?
Who is this, robed in splendor,
striding forward in the greatness of his strength?
"It is I, speaking in righteousness,
mighty to save."

Why are your garments red,
like those of one treading the winepress?
"I have trodden the winepress alone;
from the nations no one was with me.
I trampled them in my anger
and trod them down in my wrath;
their blood spattered my garments,
and I stained all my clothing.

For the day of vengeance was in my heart,
and the year of my redemption has come.
I looked, but there was no one to help,
I was appalled that no one gave support;
so my own arm worked salvation for me,
and my own wrath sustained me.

I trampled the nations in my anger;
in my wrath I made them drunk
and poured their blood on the ground."

52 posted on 02/05/2007 8:55:19 PM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets

Great posts, spunkets.

It's enjoyable observing other brethren seeking Him more.


54 posted on 02/05/2007 10:14:47 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: spunkets

Central to this argument of yours is the very verse that the psted article shows to be false and added to the Bible in order to support trinitarian doctrine.

Trinitarian doctrine is like evolution in that they both rely on falsehoods to maintain credibiliity to their adherents.

The Bible states over and over that there is but One God and over and over and over that Jesus Christ is the son of God.

The Bible never once says God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, Three in One, Trinity, etc.

Maybe God was trying to tell us something with the Bible that maybe there is only one God and that God is one, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and not God the Son?

Just a thought!


60 posted on 02/06/2007 7:28:38 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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