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To: Eagle Eye
"pneuma hagion (spirit holy) is the gift from God given on the day of Pentecost."

More exactly, agiou pneumatoV (God, the Holy Spirit) was asked for by our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus,(God, the Son), from God the Father.

10 days after the ascension, the Holy Spirit descended upon the apostles as flames of fire, thus beginning the Church Age. Today, every believer upon the call from the Father, has the Gospel made known to him via the Holy Spirit, and upon acceptance of faith in Christ, the Holy Spirit regenerates the believer's human spirit making the believer a man in body, soul, and spirit. That rebirth allows a continuing relationship between God and man while the believer remains in fellowship with Him, through faith in Christ in spirit and in truth.

Whenever the believer steps out of fellowship, he may reenter into fellowship via 1st John 1:9 by turning back to God, privately naming and confessing his known sins and categorically his unknown sins through faith in Christ to the Father for forgiveness of sins.

The believer is indwelt by the Holy Spirit and sealed by the Holy Spirit upon saving faith. The Holy Spirit provides for the temple for the indwelling of Jesus Christ in the believer and He is one with the Father.

In Acts 5, we clearly understand the Holy Spirit is indeed God, as Ananias lied to the Holy Spirit and is described as having lied to God. Throughout Christ's Revelation to John, our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus is identified as the Alpha and Omega, the one who was, is and will be forever more, identical with the great "I am". The Father was prayed to by the Son throughout the Gospels and is acknowledged throughout the epistles.

God has revealed Himself to man in these three persons, all the one God. It might be easier to comprehend a critical review of Scripture as a linguistic expression of His revelation. Semantically and in syntax, He is revealed by three different persons and we know by faith pon faith and Scripture upon Scripture that these three persons are associated with the same God, even identical with Him.

Rather than attempting to logically rephrase and analyze those relationships, we are instead shown in Scripture how God Himself reveals Himself to man, so that no other man need to interject himself into the process of coming to a relationship with God, other than our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus, the head of the Church.

All faith comes to us from God. The Father makes the call. The Holy Spirit makes Him revealed to man initially in grace to the unbeliever. The unbeliever either accepts or rejects that call and ministry of the Holy Spirit. If rejected, that is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit which is the only unpardonable sin. The unbeliever has until his first death to receive and accept faith in Christ, before he is guilty of that sin. Once a man believes in Christ, he is saved immediately by the Holy Spirit. Again, all the work by God. The believer then is continually sanctified by God the Holy Spirit, while God the Son provides the image of how God works in each and every believer. We form a preoccupation with Christ while in fellowship with Him so as to continue to grow in Him, putting on the mind of Christ and renewing our minds daily.

53 posted on 02/05/2007 10:12:20 PM PST by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr

Here's a challenge:

Describe your trinitarian god using only Biblican terms and words.

IOW, you can't use terms not found in the Bible such as:
God the son;
God the Holy Spirit;
Trinity;
Three in one, etc.


Your entire explanation relies on non-Biblical terms and concepts while still ignoring very clear verses.

There is only one God but you claim that there is three.

God is one, yet you claim that God is three.

You claim that three is one and one is three and I disagree. Three is three and one is one.

Words mean something.

Either the Bible is wrong or you are.


59 posted on 02/06/2007 7:17:25 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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