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To: dangus
Yeah, I also read you plainly deny the divinity of Jesus. That was all I needed to read; if you are not a Christian, what's the point of debating Christian theology with you?

You'd better read Romans 10:9,10.

Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

There is nothing there that says one has to believe that Jesus is God in order to be saved. In fact it states that you have to confess (mind and heart as one) the LORD (not God) Jesus and to believe that God (not Jesus) raised him from the dead. (Do you really believe that God died? If you believe that Jesus is God you have to also believe that God died.)

One what? One FLESH. Their flesh becomes one when they have sex. Literally.

Literally they are separate entities, separate bodies, one penetrating the other. the use of "one" is to indicate unity not being identical.

They shall do greater works than Jesus did in the flesh, because they shall become the body of Christ.

So you're ok promulgating the doctrine that NT believers do greater works than God, is that right?

68 posted on 02/06/2007 8:11:47 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There oughta be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

>> Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus <<

Just what is it that you think you are supposed to confess ABOUT Jesus? That he was some guy? Even Josephus, Marx, Hitler, and Stalin confessed that much. But you are denying the Lord Jesus, making him ONLY a man! You should know that Paul wrote to the Greeks, and that the Greek bible used the word, "Lord" to mean "YHWH."

>> Literally they are separate entities, separate bodies, one penetrating the other. the use of "one" is to indicate unity not being identical <<

Is my hand identical to my foot? Of course not! They are part of me, though, and I am one. A woman and a man become part of the same body. This is not mere poetry! Ask an immunologist! Ask an obstetrician!

>> So you're ok promulgating the doctrine that NT believers do greater works than God, is that right? <<

Of course not! Jesus conquered sin and death. Even you believe that, right? No human will do something greater than conquering sin and death. So, obviously, you are misusing that quote.


74 posted on 02/06/2007 8:37:49 AM PST by dangus
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To: Eagle Eye
dangus--"They shall do greater works than Jesus did in the flesh, because they shall become the body of Christ."

Eagle Eye--"So you're ok promulgating the doctrine that NT believers do greater works than God, is that right?"

All works which are called good by God's standards only happen through faith in Christ. There are many good works performed by men independently of God, but will amount to being good for nothingness by Divine standards when judged eternally. They are also parlayed into evil by the Adversary in an attempt to counterfeit Paradise independently of God here on earth.

Faith upon faith, ...even greater works than what was performed by our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus, while He was here in the first Advent, shall be done by believers in this mystery Church Age. They are indeed ascribed to the believer who performs the good work by volitional responsibility, but they are also only possible through the indwelling of God in the believer. Since the believer's volition is involved, he is also responsible for the work.

80 posted on 02/06/2007 9:04:04 AM PST by Cvengr
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