Retreatants (Papal Household) Hear of Guises of the Antichrist

Zenit News Agency ^ | February 28, 2007

[Gerish]

UN and global warming go hand and hand with New World Order. Believe you are both right on track!

[blue-duncan]

For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection." However, "this does not mean a condemnation of values, but their careful discernment. There are absolute values, such as goodness, truth, beauty," Cardinal Biffi said. "Those who perceive and love them, also love Christ, even if they don't know it, because he is Truth, Beauty and Justice."

Cardinal Biffi affirmed that "if Christianity -- on opening itself to the world and dialoguing with all -- dilutes the salvific event, it closes itself to a personal relationship with Jesus and places itself on the side of the Antichrist." If loving the "absolute values" is loving Christ even though you don't know it, isn't that closing oneself to a personal relationship with Jesus and "having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection"?

[P-Marlowe]

Yep.

[blue-duncan]

"Yep."

Look, if you are going to get wordy about his please in the future post an excerpt rather than the whole opinion so we can see if we want to read the whole post.

Thank you.

[P-Marlowe]

(snip)... ok ...(/snip)

[diamond6]

"...because he is Truth, Beauty and Justice".


This bears repeating.

[P-Marlowe]

The cardinal added that Solovyov says in that work: "Days will come in Christianity in which they will try to reduce the salvific event to a mere series of values." No cross In his "Tale of the Antichrist" Solovyov foresees that a small group of Catholics, Orthodox and Protestants will resist and will say to the Antichrist: "You give us everything, except what interests us, Jesus Christ." For Cardinal Biffi, this narrative is a warning: "Today, in fact, we run the risk of having a Christianity which puts aside Jesus with his cross and resurrection."

Tell the pope to get with the talking points:

VATICAN CITY, NOV. 30, 2005 (Zenit.org).- Whoever seeks peace and the good of the community with a pure conscience, and keeps alive the desire for the transcendent, will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith, says Benedict XVI.

The Pope made this affirmation today at the general audience, commenting on a meditation written by St. Augustine (354-430).

See: Pope Benedict XVI's general audience, Nov. 30  2005.

The Gospel teaches us that those who live in accordance with the beatitudes: the poor in spirit; the pure in heart; those who will lovingly [endure] the sufferings of life; will enter God's kingdom. All who seek God with a sincere heart, including those who do not know Christ and His Church, contribute under the influence of grace, to the building of this kingdom. In the Lord's prayer we say 'Thy kingdom come'. May this be the hope that sustains us and inspires our Christian life and world."

Text of the Wednesday Audience message "FOR US, THE KINGDOM IS GRACE" online at Zenit.

Or then again maybe Cardinal Biffi needs to get with the Pope's talking points.

It's all so confusing.

[ArrogantBustard]

Back in the felt-banner '70s, there used to be a slogan that went something like:

"If you were on trial fore being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?"

It was, I think, always meant as a rhetorical question ... a starting point for conversation and teaching. It can take on a more ominous tone ... consider that there is real persecution in the Communist and Mohammedan world, and that Mohammedanism is spreading.

[blue-duncan]

"(What happened to my tagline?)"

You forgot to bring it with you from January. I think you got so excited posting that heretical Loraine Boettner essay that you forgot to bring your lofty title with you. Not to worry, as keeper of the Institutes it is my duty to archive all important items and I retrieved this (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*) from the vault where all royal documents and records of investitures are kept (not cataloged or listed mind you, but sort of randomly kept).

[Knitting A Conundrum]

I have 3 Catholic Christian blogs, including 670 or so Christian poems. Think it'd be hard to cover those tracks...;)

[P-Marlowe]

Not to worry, as keeper of the Institutes it is my duty to archive all important items and I retrieved this (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*) from the vault where all royal documents and records of investitures are kept (not cataloged or listed mind you, but sort of randomly kept).

Thanks. And all this time I thought someone stole it. I didn't think to look in the vault. Probably because I didn't know we had one.

BTW, Don't you have to keep a list to know what is in the vault.

Oh the Humanity!

[Quix]

What a slick, fierce personal attack. Expertly done.

[Quix]

Agreed. Been saying something similar for several decades.

[blue-duncan]

no

[Pyro7480]

Did you actually read the link "Pope Benedict XVI's general audience, Nov. 30 2005." It doesn't support the statement "Whoever seeks peace and the good of the community with a pure conscience, and keeps alive the desire for the transcendent, will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith, says Benedict XVI."

Benedict was quoting from St. Augustine: "And making reference to the 'earthly city called Babylon,' he adds: In it 'there are people who, moved by love for it, contrive to ensure peace, temporal peace, without nourishing another hope in their hearts than the joy of working for peace. And we see them make every effort to be useful to the earthly society. However, if they are committed with a pure conscience in these tasks, God will not allow them to perish with Babylon, having predestined them to be citizens of Jerusalem, on the condition, however, that, living in Babylon, they do not seek pride, outdated pomp and arrogance. ... He sees their service and will show them the other city, toward which they must really long and orient all their effort.'"

[blue-duncan]

I fail to see how your quotes contradict what P-M said. Neither statement says anything about salvation by Christ alone.

"Whoever seeks peace and the good of the community with a pure conscience, and keeps alive the desire for the transcendent, will be saved even if he lacks biblical faith, says Benedict XVI."

"And we see them make every effort to be useful to the earthly society. However, if they are committed with a pure conscience in these tasks, God will not allow them to perish with Babylon, having predestined them to be citizens of Jerusalem, on the condition, however, that, living in Babylon, they do not seek pride, outdated pomp and arrogance"

[P-Marlowe]

ok

[Marysecretary]

I believe he is. Peace, as I've just been reminded, is a fruit of the spirit. So, no Spirit, no peace.

[Marysecretary]

I'm planning on being a general in that army (it was prophesied once that my husband and I would be. Don't know what it means but it's interesting).

[Marysecretary]

My husband complains and nobody questions his authority or his motives.