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To: Zionist Conspirator

I was on pilgrimage in Ha Eretz last May and saw the Franciscans at several of the holy sites. They seemed to be very orthodox there. At the Church of the Holy Sepulchre they not only have Masses (carefully following the horarium set out in the 1850's by an accord with the Greeks, Armenians and maybe others) there every day but also do some special prayers at the most significant spots within the church, i.e. at Calvary, the stone of unction, and the tomb; these are done vested in habit and surplice, with incense, and in Latin. I was very edified. I wish I could get the texts of the prayers they used but cannot find the right source.

The Franciscans also have the only organ in the church, which can be heard throughout when played, even if at the times the other groups are conducting their services. Quite a sight to see the Armenians, in full monk outfit, beards, hood and all, making prayers, chanting, incensing, etc., and then to hear the Franciscans' organ on top of it all. Very exotic.

On a broader note, Israel was great; we felt very safe and the economy is almost completely dual currency, everyone takes and makes change in either dollars or shekels, as desired. In addition to Jerusalem, Haifa was a very beautiful city, with Mount Carmel right there, and worth the trip itself.

For pilgrim accommodations in Jerusalem (i.e. for those not needing TVs in the room, but requiring a chapel on site) I highly recommend the Notre Dame Institute, run by the Legionaries of Christ. Fr. Juan Solana, LC, who is the director, took us around to many of the sites in Jerusalem himself, and he was greeted by the locals there as if he were another mayor of Jerusalem or something. He is really quite something. For those who can understand Spanish, I would recommend a visit to see him give a reflection on the Nativity, at the Grotto of the Nativity in Bethlehem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYi00JltpIw

If you follow the link, you will see the inspiration for my tag.


56 posted on 03/01/2007 9:04:02 AM PST by Theophane (Es Verdad)
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To: Theophane

Fr. John several times during our stay there was careful to say that we all owe the Franciscans a debt of gratitude for reopening the Christian holy sites there in the Holy Land, and for providing so many martyrs there.


58 posted on 03/01/2007 9:11:53 AM PST by Theophane (Es Verdad)
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To: Theophane
I've only been to Israel once, almost nine years ago, and I was only there for a week. Plus, since I went on my own rather than part of an organized tour I really didn't get to see very much. Oh, and just about everything that could go wrong did.

The man who acted as my "host" (I didn't stay with him, but he met me at the airport, spent a day taking me to a few places, and then took me back to the airport) didn't want to go to Beit-Lechem and have PLO rifles pointed at him. I didn't blame him.

82 posted on 03/01/2007 3:55:16 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Zakhor 'et 'asher-`asah lekha `Amaleq, baderekh betze'tekhem miMitzrayim.)
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