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Whatever takes place in the city in which we dwell is because of God mission to bring His city home to Him. The reformulation of Israel must have been ordained by God simply because it has happened.
As it was prophesied TO happen in Scripture. Harley. We don't have to guess about Israel. God says what His plan is - and His plan is not limited to the salvation of man. It also includes revealing some things about Himself to the world. Israel's restoration was according to the promises of God as prophesied millenia ago. It is not complete. Scripture tells us all of what will occur, if we will listen to it.

I have yet to find anyone who has been able to accurately interpret Revelation. I find the Orthodox approach the best. Once a year they pull it off the shelf, read it, say "Hmmmm, very interesting.", and put it back on the shelf until next year.
No Harley. You don't know if you have found anyone who has accurately interpreted Revelation. Some of us may have hit the nail right on the head. Ignorring it serves nobody's purpose. It may seem cute, but God put it in the Bible for us to grapple with. And, he has given us His Holy Spirit to teach us what He wants us to know about it.

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As it was prophesied TO happen in Scripture. Harley.

If dispensationalism was such an obvious and important doctrine, why didn't anybody spot it for 1900 years? Why didn't the early church fathers felt that Israel would be reborn? One would think that if it was so clearly defined in the text, someone would have spotted it within 1900 years. There is more written evidence of disagreement with the Eucharist than with the formation of Israel, and that's saying a lot because there isn't that much.

I remember reading Hal Lindsey's Late Great Planet Earth back in the early 70's. Those who remember that first book will recall how Mr. Lindsey laid out a careful argument on how the great bear was going to sweep from the north to attack Israel. The bear at that time is now the Soviet Union. I thought that was great theology until the Soviet Union broke apart. Over the last several decades Mr. Lindsey modified and changed his interpretations to fit with current events but he lost at least one reader. My point isn't to criticize Mr. Lindsey but to illustrate that it's very easy to read anything, anyone wants in scripture and conform their beliefs based upon their surroundings and not on good theological development.

You don't know if you have found anyone who has accurately interpreted Revelation. Some of us may have hit the nail right on the head.

That may very easily be true. But I sincerely doubt a doctrine stating God sheding out His blessings on a nation (any nation) that is in constant rebellion to Him, hits anything on the head. The biblical Israel for most of its life was in a constant state of rebellion. God destroyed the country and sent them into exile. Later He destroyed the temple. Why would God change now and bless them; the people that reject His Son?

God may use Israel to accomplish His will but that's it. Please keep in mind the Muslims are saying that God is using and blessing them? Personally, I think they have a stronger case. Fact is, however, God raises those nations who He so chooses for His will. What that will is none of us really know and any mapping to scripture is speculation at best.