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The Catholic Church Changed The Ten Commandments?
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Posted on 03/11/2007 7:28:32 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Jeff Chandler

Look up "thou shalt not commit adultery." The Hebrew word means to commit adultery, but also "idolatrous worship."
(blueletterbible.com)

In the Septuagint, the double entendre is preserved.

moich-euô ,

A. commit adultery with a woman,
2. metaph., worship idolatrously
(http://www.perseus.tufts.edu)

The Vulgate has non moechaberis -- tufts.edu doesn't give the second meaning but I have seen it in Latin dictionaries.


41 posted on 03/13/2007 12:33:46 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: Uncle Chip
See #38, which explains the "simple logic" behind the Latin enumeration of the commandments. Simple logic tells us that wives are not property. We aren't mohammedans. If adultery ("stealing" your neighbour's wife) is a separate offense from stealing your neighbour's property, then the desire to do these things also make two separate offenses.

And if one is to consider the first commandment to include both "have no other gods before me" and "make no image" as part of it, then quote the whole commandment that includes it.

When the Ten Commandments are actually taught, that is precisely what is done; generally several variations on 'false gods' are explored ranging from old fashioned paganism to modern worship of the State, or of public opinion.

42 posted on 03/13/2007 12:41:13 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Salvation; P.O.E.; ArrogantBustard; Uncle Chip

Hmmm....I don't see how the finger exercise could be adapted for the Catholic version.

Most people have a first, middle, and last name, although some have two middle names and others have none...that might be more memorable than the scout's pledge.

Deuteronomy 5:21 lists thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife first, followed by his field, house, manservant, maidservant, ox, ass, and everything else...

Exodus 20:17 lists thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house first, followed by his wife, manservant, maidservant, ox, ass, and everything else.


43 posted on 03/15/2007 8:07:34 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: FourtySeven

**Catholics deleted no idols command **

Actually I don't think the Catholics did. I am the Lord, thy God, thou shalt have no stange gods before me.

See the table here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1799282/posts?page=3#3


44 posted on 03/15/2007 8:32:04 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Vicomte13

**The most glaring case of "picking and choosing" indulged in by ALL Christians (except the 7th Day Adventists) is ignoring the Sabbath. The commandment says honor the SABBATH.**

The early Apostles did keep the Sabbath. Then they met again on Sunday to celebrate the Lord's resurrection, read scripture and share a meal. It usually happened in a home. Bet you knew this!


45 posted on 03/15/2007 8:34:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Good analysis. Never knew that about the #4.


46 posted on 03/15/2007 8:36:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Lord Jesus, let Your prayer of unity for Christians
become a reality, in Your way
we have absolute confidence
that you can bring your people together
we give you absolute permission to move Amen

Please help me understand what is meant by the "bolded" words. It can't be what it seems.

47 posted on 03/15/2007 8:52:01 PM PDT by T Minus Four (Acts 8:37)
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To: Salvation

Yes, I knew that.

But Christians ever since have NOT kept the Sabbath, and do not keep the Sabbath.

For Catholics and the Orthodox, this is easy. Power of the keys given to Peter and the Apostles, and given by Peter and the Apostles to the leadership of the Church, in Apostolic succession. So, the Commandment to Honor the Sabbath no longer applies, because it's been superseded, by the authority God vested in Peter and the apostles, which they vested in the Church, by the Tradition of the Church that says that SUNDAY is the day of Catholic (and Orthodox) worship. Catholics do not honor the Sabbath Day and keep it holy, because the Church says they don't have to, and the Church has the authority, given by God, to bind God, which includes changing the Ten Commandments. The Church changed one, and we are bound to obey the Church, and not the Bible, on this point. Or rather, we are bound to obey the Bible and understand that the Power of the Keys in Matthew MEANS that the Church can change the law of the Bible, and that IS divine. So much for the Catholics and Orthodox.

Protestants can't do that. In fact, when Catholics do that, based on the power of the keys, Protestants see Catholics erecting the sort of traditions against the law of God that Jesus railed at the Pharisees for doing. The Bible's the inerrant, infallible Word of God, and the Church cannot modify the Ten Commandments.

But Protestants, except for Seventh Day Adventists, follow the tradition of Sunday worship, which isn't Biblical, and don't honor the Sabbath Day and Keep it Holy. In effect, they follow 9 of the Ten Commandments.

I find this interesting, and I find the justifications given for that interesting.

For Catholics, the Church has the authority of God, including the authority to overrule the Bible (so long as that was done long ago; TODAY the Church could not credibly overrule Sunday and replace it with a Tuesday mandatory mass, for instance. It could try, but it would be the end of infallibility were the assertion made. Everybody would see it as an error.)

For Protestants, it's Bible alone, but they don't keep the Sabbath. A fascinating problem.


48 posted on 03/15/2007 9:00:09 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: Vicomte13

**For Protestants, it's Bible alone, but they don't keep the Sabbath. A fascinating problem.**

Nor have they disposed of their globes. For the Bible tells us that the world was/is flat. LOL!

Sola Scriptura Alert!


49 posted on 03/15/2007 9:06:40 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Actually, if you read Genesis very, very carefully, without preconceived notions, it tells you something a little bit different.

It tells you that the universe is full of water, and that the visible universe is made out of a bubble in the water. There's water outside of it above, and below: the abyss.

Now, above, the firmament is that: a solid dome. The stars and planets and sun are placed IN the firmament. Not above it. There are gates in the firmament, the gates of heaven, and these gates were opened to flood the world in the time of Noah. Similarly, the waters below are gathered, within the bubble, and dry land appeared, but there are gates in the bubble below, the wellsprings of the earth, and they too were opened to cause the Flood. The Flood wasn't caused by rain, from clouds, It was caused by water rushing down from BEYOND THE STARS AND PLANETS, when the gates of the firmament (in which the stars are fixed) were opened and the water above the bubble poured in.
Also, the Flood wasn't just rain. The water welled up from the wellsprings too.

There's water out there beyond the stars. And that is why the sky is blue. Think about it.

It's a very interesting creation myth.
But it's not true.


50 posted on 03/15/2007 9:30:49 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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To: T Minus Four

Salvation, I hope you take my question seriously and take the time to answer.


51 posted on 03/17/2007 7:38:38 AM PDT by T Minus Four (Acts 8:37)
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