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On Fox News Fearless HLI Priest Takes on Sean Hannity (may be indebted for saving his soul)
LifeSite ^ | March 13, 2007 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 03/14/2007 6:29:56 AM PDT by NYer

Fr. Tom Enteneuer NEW YORK, March 13, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Last Friday, the President of Human Life International, Fr. Tom Euteneuer used his weekly column to point out the hypocrisy of Catholic celebrity Sean Hannity, one of the stars of Fox News' Hannity and Colmes show.

Hannity had, on a show the week before, made a big deal of apologizing for having inadvertently eaten a couple of bites of a meat sandwich on a Friday during Lent.  In his column, Fr. Euteneuer pointed out that the meat incident was not sinful at all, and "If apologies are the order of the day, then the repentance I would like to hear out of Sean Hannity's mouth is for his shameless-even scandalous-promotion of birth control. Yes, I have heard him personally say, 'I have no problem with birth control. It's a good thing.'"

Explaining the gravity of the situation, Fr. Euteneuer noted, "Given the size of his audience and the importance of his status in pop culture, Hannity's anti-witness to a fundamental tenet of Catholic moral doctrine is just devastating for the faith of others who may be weak or vacillating in this area."  In his concluding remarks he stated: "The moral of the story is that Catholic men and women in the media need to be truly Catholic or at least stop being hypocrites." (see the full column here: http://www.hli.org/sl_2007-03-09.html )

Hannity's dissent from Church teaching on contraception is long-standing and very public.  In fact, in 2004, his public stand in favor of contraception made it into a commentary in the oldest Catholic newspaper in the United States, the Wanderer. 

On a show in 2004, Hannity was explaining his opposition to withholding Communion from Catholic politicians who support legal abortion.  At the time he pointed out that should Communion be withheld from liberals it could also be withheld from conservatives such as he since, he said, he had no problem with contraception.

Sean Hannity Hannity's press handlers called the HLI leader the day his column was published to have him address Hannity live on the program.  Fr. Euteneuer obliged and began a reasoned, calm presentation of his case. "One is simply obliged not to be a heretic in public. That's the point," said Fr. Euteneuer in response to an initial question from Colmes. "If (Hannity) doesn't agree with his Church on that matter he should not be pronouncing on the matter as if he was the authority on that matter. He's not."

However rather than argue for his case on contraception or even address the points made in Fr. Euteneuer's article Hannity immediately jumped to the offensive.  "Reverend. Let me, let me just say… You call me a hypocrite. You question the depth of my faith. Do you know anything about me and my religious beliefs? And my background religion? do you know anything about me?"

"I only see the evidence Sean. I see the evidence of a superficial presentation of one aspect of the faith. I see the…," replied Fr. Euteneuer just before he was cut off by Hannity's attack on the Catholic Church via the sex abuse scandals.  "Judge not lest you be judged, Reverend", interrupted Hannity.  "Maybe you ought to spend a little more time that our Church covered up one of the worst sex scandals and I wasn't involved in it. And the fact that public people after that are willing to still be Catholic is something you should be applauding. Considering the levels of corruption at the highest levels of the Church was frankly embarrassing to every person."

Many commenting on Hannity, have said that he 'lost it' with the priest.  "Do you know that I went to a seminary? Do you know that I studied Latin? Do you know that I studied theology?," said Hannity at one point just before repeating charges about corruption and sex scandals in the church.

The only time Hannity seemed especially affected by the priest came right at the end of the segment when Hannity demanded, "Wait, would you deny me communion?"  Fr. Euteneuer replied, "I would."  Hannity, visibly moved, replied, "Wow, wow." (See the segment on vido here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f50fD5elrcg )

Despite his courage and fidelity, Fr. Euteneuer has received criticism for his stand even from some Catholics who, despite decades of persistent, public and very damaging scandal to the faith by prominent individuals, still insist that behind-the-scenes, personal dialogue is the only acceptable response.  It has been suggested that the HLI leader should have approached Hannity privately.  However, in 2004, after Hannity 's scandalous remarks about contraception Fr. Euteneuer did attempt to personally contact Hannity with his concerns but to no avail.

The broadcast is being praised for having raised publicly that contraception leads to abortion and is contrary to the Catholic faith.  It has also shown that the Catholic Church is impartial in its estimation of liberals and conservatives, and must correct equally all those who reject the Church's authoritative teachings on faith and morals.

Probably the saddest chapter of the event was Fox News publishing an open letter to Sean Hannity by Father Jonathan Morris, a regular news contributor for the fox News Channel.  Fr. Morris, vice rector for the Legionnaries of Christ seminary in Rome, wrote that when he saw the program, "I hung my head in shame and sadness."   Fr. Morris continued, "My colleague in religion (whom I've never met) used the public airways and Internet to call you a heretic and hypocrite. Because he chose to do this in a public forum, I want you and your viewers to know, publicly, that as an analyst of this television network, I believe this good priest, who does great work, exercised, on this occasion, shockingly poor judgment. I consider his willingness to give his personal opinion about your status within the Church inappropriate and ill-considered, to say the least."

In an open letter responding to Fr. Morris, Fr. Euteneuer wrote: "Your letter to Sean Hannity indicates that you did not know that I asked to speak to him in private about this matter in 2004 otherwise you may have tempered your remarks about my supposed lack of charity in dealing with a high profile Catholic who dissents from clearly-defined and reiterated Church teachings."

"May I also point out," added Fr. Euteneuer, "that you did not employ with me the same standard of "fraternal correction" that you expected me to employ with Mr. Hannity. I at least made the attempt to speak to him about this issue in private without success; you, in contrast, went immediately to the internet to take me to task."  (See both Fr. Morris' letter and Fr. Euteneuer's response: http://www.hli.org/article_open_letter_to_fr_morris.html )

As a man who has defended the Catholic position on the right to life for the unborn, on traditional marriage, and against the euthanasia of Terri Schiavo, Sean Hannity has come to grips with many of the hard teachings of the faith.  Some observers are suggesting that his encounter with the Church's position on contraception, was an eye-opener and may in fact lead Hannity to a fuller adherence to what he professes to believe.  To this priest, who so perturbed him, Hannity may one day find himself grateful, perhaps eternally so.


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: contraception; foxnews; hannity
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1 posted on 03/14/2007 6:30:08 AM PDT by NYer
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...
To this priest, who so perturbed him, Hannity may one day find himself grateful, perhaps eternally so.

And many other souls, as well.

2 posted on 03/14/2007 6:32:13 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer
Hannity majored in opportunism.

That said, I thought I heard Sean say that he found it perfectly acceptable for non catholic teens to use contraception because it's better than abortion.

When a caller stated that contraception is not guaranteed to be effective and then abortion would be the next step Sean seemed to suggest that the risk was acceptable to him.

He went on to say that he teaches his children differently. Sean's kids are five and eight if I'm not mistaken. I would hate to think he is giving them condom advice.

It would seem that Sean was suggesting that teaching about condoms is okay in the schools as long as it's not taught to catholic children.

I heard a good part of that program and was totally dismayed by the tone and the illogic of the arguments Sean was making.

3 posted on 03/14/2007 6:34:54 AM PDT by OldFriend
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To: NYer
So, according to this priest, having no problem with contraception is the same as supporting legal abortion? Both are the ground for denying communion?
4 posted on 03/14/2007 6:43:46 AM PDT by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: NYer
And many other souls, as well.

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Yes. Exactly right. It is the good Father's obligation to speak up.

Fr. Euteneuer obliged and began a reasoned, calm presentation of his case. "One is simply obliged not to be a heretic in public. That's the point,"

In publicly promoting contraception, Hannity may be leading others astray.

5 posted on 03/14/2007 6:48:26 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer
Oh you just have to post the BEST line in Fr. Euteneuer's letter to Fr. Morris:

As a seminary rector, I would sincerely hope that you are not teaching by word or example the young men in your charge to be politically correct sissies who are afraid to roll up their sleeves and defend the Church in private and in public. We have tons of those types in the clergy already.

That is absolutely priceless!

And when Sean Hannity pulls out the line, "I went to the seminary. I studied theology. And Latin!" we need to remember that he's talking about the HIGH SCHOOL SEMINARY of the DIOCESE OF ROCKVILLE CENTER, for God's sake!

A well-known bastion of orthodox theology and ecclesiastical Latin!

When Sean went there, they were probably using the Sadlier how-to-make-a-collage "catechisms," and I would imagine that the extent of the Latin studied was the chorus to Immaculate Mary - if that.

6 posted on 03/14/2007 6:48:32 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: NYer

You know what kills me? No one asks why Sean brought him on the show. Sean throwing in the scandals a few times didn't help.


7 posted on 03/14/2007 7:15:25 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: trisham

Also, Sean is the first one to jump all over Pelosi, Kerry and others re: receiving communion while sleeping with Planned Parenthood and NARAL.

Sean doesn't get it... in his pride he doesn't see it's about his soul, not what people think of him or if he's embarrassed... I guess they left that part out at Sean's seminary.


8 posted on 03/14/2007 7:17:50 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: paudio

What does contraception do?


9 posted on 03/14/2007 7:18:21 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: TaxachusettsMan

I'm on the floor... my thoughts exactly. LOL


10 posted on 03/14/2007 7:19:41 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: NYer
The broadcast is being praised for having raised publicly that contraception leads to abortion and is contrary to the Catholic faith.

What a crock.

Used correctly, contraception CANNOT lead to abortion. If there's no baby created, there's no baby to abort.
11 posted on 03/14/2007 7:20:55 AM PDT by Xenalyte (It's a Zen thing, you know, like how many babies fit in a tire.)
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To: Xenalyte; paudio
Used correctly, contraception CANNOT lead to abortion. If there's no baby created, there's no baby to abort.

You should look to see the mechanisms that the birth control pill and the IUD use prior to making a blanket statement such as that. Those two methods are inherently abortifacients.

12 posted on 03/14/2007 7:41:44 AM PDT by markomalley (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus CINO-RINO GRAZIE NO)
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To: NYer

Relevant Radio had Fr. Tom Euteneuer on yesterday at about 4 to 5 central time to talk about his appearance on H&C. This morning Fr Mich Pacwa said something about this as well. Both shows were a good discussion on cafeteria catholics and not simply a session to beat up Sean.


13 posted on 03/14/2007 7:45:57 AM PDT by cheme
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To: AliVeritas
What does contraception do?

There are many kinds of Contraception, not all involve killing babies. Some block the sperms (condom), or change the female hormonal situation by preventing ovulation (e.g. implant), so there's no fertilization. If there's no fertilization take place, there's no baby produced. Abortion, however, obviously involves something to terminate the baby... This is if we believe that life starts from the conception. So, to be sure, there are many contraception that do terminate the baby.

I may be wrong, but I believe Catholic Church allows natural contraception, e.g., "calendar system."

14 posted on 03/14/2007 7:50:51 AM PDT by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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To: Xenalyte
Used correctly, contraception CANNOT lead to abortion.

Used correctly, no contraceptive in the world has a 100% success rate. (Unless you count abstinence, and the Church has no objection to that one.) The effectiveness of condoms used correctly is only 85%.

Even the Supreme Court in the Casey decision justified abortion by arguing that it was necessary as "backstop" contraception.

15 posted on 03/14/2007 8:06:05 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: paudio
change the female hormonal situation by preventing ovulation (e.g. implant)

??? Ovulation occurs before fertilization; implantation occurs after fertilization.

All hormonal contraceptives have at least the potential to prevent implantation. (That's according to the package inserts that come with the drug; i.e., according to the manufacturer.) If you believe that life begins at conception (as you should), that means they can, sometimes, work by causing an early abortion.

16 posted on 03/14/2007 8:13:22 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: paudio

It is wrong to say that the Catholic Church allows contraception, even "natural" contraception, which is an oxymoron in itself. The Catholic Church does allow for natural forms of birth control.

The Church's teaching included that is it never morally permissable pervert the sexual act, that is to sterilize it which is what contraception does. With natural forms of birth control, there is no act to pervert, wherein lies the difference.

It DOESN'T matter that both can prevent pregnancy. It DOES matter that one involves the sterilization of the act of love, which should always mirror the life giving love of the Father, and the other does not.


17 posted on 03/14/2007 8:13:24 AM PDT by mockingbyrd (peace begins in the womb)
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To: paudio

Catholic church views most contraceptives as abortive of a vial fetus, whether newly fertilized egg (the pill, etc.) or later. The key is life begins at conception and anything used to end that life is against Catholic teaching. Using condoms, etc., is against the Church because it believes that procreation is the purpose of sexual intercourse - and that teaches us not to waste seed. Any Catholics more knowledgable than I please correct me if I am wrong but this is how I understand it.


18 posted on 03/14/2007 8:22:55 AM PDT by Right in Wisconsin (Have a Happy Day)
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To: NYer
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


19 posted on 03/14/2007 8:24:16 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: mockingbyrd; Right in Wisconsin; Campion

I'm still not convinced that using condom warrants a same treatment as promoting legal abortion. They both may be against the Church teachings, but defying communion is a serious punishment.


20 posted on 03/14/2007 8:28:14 AM PDT by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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