Posted on 03/30/2007 11:03:33 AM PDT by Gamecock
Thank you for your kind words.
I really am astounded at the notion put forth by some that, as a man, guided by the Holy Spirit or not, the Pope cannot be infallible, yet they make the claim that they, guided by the Holy Spirit are infallible due to their familiarity and understanding of Scripture alone.
I still believe that it all comes down to the fact that the entire splintering off from the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ resulted in the spawning of thousands of illegitimate churches, each a pale imitation of what they spurned. And knowingly, or unknowingly, the individuals who attack us most fiercely may be merely trying to cover up their own strong feelings of inadequacy.
Salvation. I believe fully that the Catholic Church has the fullness of Truth. I posted about Father Matt Kennedy's posts on Sola Scriptura because I found their arguments interesting.
I think the evidence of the shortcomings of Sola Scriptura can be seen in the multitude of Protestant denominations. Also the Protestant apologetic for Sola Scriptura varies. Some teach that it necessarily excludes creeds and the teaching of any church councils. While others such as Calvinists do embrace the creeds and the teachings of some Church councils.
During this time when we contemplate our Lord's Passion and His glorious resurrection I prefer to remember what we hold in common we our Protestant brothers and sisters. That we love and serve Christ with all our hearts, minds, will and soul should unite us over our theological differences. Jesus is Lord.
You can not be convinced, until you are indwelt by the Holy Spirit...And even then, you still have your old nature to contend with...
Unless one's eyes have been blinded, one can easily and cleary see that your church is in contradiction to many, many, many scriptures that have been posted and discussed here on FR...
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
2Co 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Do you believe this??? Is Jesus Christ 'in you' without taking a bite out of his arm every Saturday morning??? If He is, you don't need to 'knaw' on his flesh once a week to get his 'presence' in you for about 20 minutes...
And if He isn't in you, as you can see, there are plenty of scripture to warn you and ultimately lead you in the right direction...
and that those millions of other non Catholics, mistakenly led by someone or something else and arriving at different conclusions about the Bible, are wrong.
Firstly, look at your own church...I've seen so many different interpretations of what your church believes here on FR that it boggles my mind...Seems to be the same problem Protestants have...They don't bother to know, they don't believe what they read or they interpret it to suit their own conceived beliefs...But there's one more...
All but one (English) bible on the market are made using the Catholic African (Alexandrian) manuscripts as the source for these bibles...They're all Catholic bibles...Why so many bibles that vary so much in their interpretations??? Apparently to confuse people and to convince people there is no actual word of God...
You won't know if you are led by the Spirit until you actually are...You will then know...He will lead you to the bible...What you do with it is up to you...Let the Spirit lead you into all truth or give that responsibility to your church...Even your church has to depend on some scripture to justify itself, as all other Christian religions do...
Izlam is almost as old and Bhuddism is older...
People have been worshipping the Queen of Heaven long before your first pope showed up...
Any more salient points you want to make???
Or maybe they're just trying to get you saved and keep others from falling into that religion...
I can't imagine why anyone would take spiritual advice by someone as hateful as you.
I believe in the sovereignty of God. If He didn't want me to have the Bible I have, I'd have a different one.
Besides, it is you Catholics that have run to the Greek, or Latin, or some foreign language to prove that 'eat (my flesh)' means to gnaw, to crunch and other things to prove that eat means, eat...I'm only just repeating what you guys have said...
Ah, Gnosticism at its best. I see even more clearly where you are coming from. No proof is necessary, no practices, no responsibilities, no outward sign. One says the magic words - I am led by the Holy Spirit - and therefore one is infallible - unlike the Pope doncha know - and therefore capable of making pronouncements of what Christianity is and isn't, which portions of the Bible are ignored, and which are brought together to "prove" a point.
You "know." My point is, that I have known people that "know" things as well.
So only God influences your life? Doesn't the Devil have that capability as well?
It's coming through a little garbled. Methinks that your Victrola needs updating.
Satisfying your egotistical demands that everyone worship only as you say. That's what is at stake with your "mission" here.
Others, you have to hit over the head with a hammer...
Ah, now we get to the true nature of your character: Abusive thuggery.
Regardless of your ability to appreciate it, this insult is VERY personal to me, yet it garners no admonition from you.
Only when I protest to a Protestant's promise to hammer me over the head does the moderation begin.
I don't know why I bother posting or even reading the Protestant (I mean, the Religion) Forum. All pigs are equal, but some it seems are more equal than others.
Kinda reminds me of the story of the fundamentalist, exasperated at the use of Spanish in his area declaring that if English was good enough for Jesus, it was good enough for him and for everyone else.
If you cannot abide by the most simple guideline of "discuss the issues all you want but do NOT make it personal" - then you should not post on the Religion Forum at all because "making it personal" incites flame wars, especially on the Religion Forum where so many arrive with giant chips on their shoulders!
That post is personally offensive to any Catholic. Sorry you can't appreciate that.
Jack Chick publications are banned from FR. That's a good start. But somehow Jack Chick slanders (paraphrased) are okie-dokie.
This forum is giving FR a very bad reputation.
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