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Should We Take the Bible Literally or Figuratively?
CatholicExchange.com ^ | April 17, 2007 | Mary Harwell Sayler

Posted on 04/18/2007 11:20:10 AM PDT by Salvation

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To: MarkBsnr

Any unsaved people in your church of Jesus Christ???


142 posted on 04/19/2007 7:36:47 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Salvation; sandyeggo
I asked you way back in the first post to address the issue of the Bible only, not the Sabbath.

Perhaps you could actually read the question I posed:

To What Degree does the Bible Matter to Catholicism?

Furthermore, I asked if you guys would address it, and not even on this thread necessarily.

What Sandyeggo left out is that out of the first 64 posts, 25 are addressed to me, and I don't recall one of them addressing the relevancy of the BIBLE to CATHOLICS.

143 posted on 04/19/2007 7:42:40 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: sandyeggo

Thank you!


144 posted on 04/19/2007 7:44:27 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: kerryusama04
I've answered you more than once... though not on this particular question... so now I will...

As Catholics, we recognize God's revelation of Himself in three ways:

- Scripture (The Bible)
- Tradition (Primarily the Liturgy--Mass--and the Sacraments)
- The Magisterium (The Church's teachings)

Why do we recognize these three? Because Christianity is a religion of the Word, not of a book. The Word is a person--Jesus Christ. Each of the revelations above is mutually illuminating. Nothing in the three contradict each other, they reveal more about the others. Scripture is the God-breathed written revelation. Tradition is the living worship of God. The Magisterium is the means given by Christ to understand it all.

Ephesians 3:8 To me, the least of all the saints, is given this grace, to preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ: 9 And to enlighten all men, that they may see what is the dispensation of the mystery which hath been hidden from eternity in God who created all things: 10 That the manifold wisdom of God may be made known to the principalities and powers in heavenly places through the church, 11 According to the eternal purpose which he made in Christ Jesus our Lord: 12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

147 posted on 04/19/2007 7:56:01 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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To: onedoug

Will do.


148 posted on 04/19/2007 7:56:15 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Diego1618; kerryusama04
If you notice the sixth word in the passage above...taken from the original Greek, it is the word Sabbatwn. This is a Hebrew word (Greek had no word for Sabbath) and the phrase "mia twn Sabbatwn" means....."one of the Sabbaths".

You are mistaking a partitive genitive (genitive of time) for a possessive genitive.

149 posted on 04/19/2007 8:03:42 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake; kerryusama04

Great post.


150 posted on 04/19/2007 8:07:41 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Diego1618
There is zero Scriptural evidence for that assertion.
151 posted on 04/19/2007 8:08:01 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Running On Empty; wideawake

I found the post informative, but not enlightening. What is the basis for Catholicism? One party of the three listed must have the final word, otherwise how does one correct for error? If Rome can declare a new Sabbath in direct contradiction to the Holy Scriptures, and brag about it, what else can it declare?


152 posted on 04/19/2007 8:16:42 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: Salvation
As the living word of God, the Bible is also true to itself and the spiritual truths expressed in a variety of tones, formats, and literary styles. Many themes and purposes arise in its pages, but the overall goal shows the salvation and redemption of man by the Almighty God, beginning in Genesis and going all the way through the final Amen in Revelation. So as you study the Bible, don't worry about whether you should take the words literally or figuratively. Just take them. Read them. Study them, and get to know what the Biblical record shows about the ongoing relationship between human beings and the God of love.

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Good advice. :) Thanks for this, Salvation!

153 posted on 04/19/2007 8:23:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: pgyanke
This one is good: http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/
154 posted on 04/19/2007 8:29:43 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: windcliff

Thanks.


155 posted on 04/19/2007 8:54:25 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: All
Doctrinal Concordance of the Bible [What Catholics Believe from the Bible] Catholic Caucus
156 posted on 04/19/2007 9:23:45 AM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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To: Salvation
Should We Take the Bible Literally or Figuratively?

Literally where literal. Figuratively where figurative. After all it is at least 66 books written over a period of centuries and containing history, poetry, and prophecy, etc..
157 posted on 04/19/2007 9:27:15 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: kerryusama04

The burden of proof lies with you that “Rome can declare a new sabbath in direct contradiction to the Holy Scriptures, and brag about it”.

For one thing, the Catholic Church is not “Rome”.

Secondly, show me where it “brags” about declaring a “new sabbath”.

And, for what seems like an endless number of times, posts and threads you have offered to contest it, Catholics still celebrate the Resurrection of the Lord on Sunday and all the sabbatarians in the world won’t change that and won’t prove beyond any doubt that it is “in contradiction to the Holy Scriptures.”


158 posted on 04/19/2007 9:31:16 AM PDT by Running On Empty
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To: Running On Empty
The burden of proof lies with you that “Rome can declare a new sabbath in direct contradiction to the Holy Scriptures, and brag about it”.

Negative. The burden of proof lies with the body of believers who teach contrary to God's Law. Show me one line of scripture sanctifying any other day of the week in scripture vice the Sabbath.

"You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify." Cardinal Gibbons (for many years head of the Catholic Church in America), The Faith of Our Fathers (92d ed., rev.; Baltimore: John Murphy Company), p.89.

And, for what seems like an endless number of times, posts and threads you have offered to contest it, Catholics still celebrate the Resurrection of the Lord on Sunday and all the sabbatarians in the world won’t change that and won’t prove beyond any doubt that it is “in contradiction to the Holy Scriptures.”

Answer a) Where is the command to do this?

Ansewer b) Why not celebrate it on the actual day is occurred, i.e. 3 Nisan 17?

Answer c) Where is the command to repeal the 4th Commandment?

For one thing, the Catholic Church is not “Rome”.

You got that right.

159 posted on 04/19/2007 9:54:42 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: trisham

Thank you too!


160 posted on 04/19/2007 10:02:38 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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