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To: pgyanke
As Catholics, we recognize God's revelation of Himself in three ways:

- Scripture (The Bible)
- Tradition (Primarily the Liturgy--Mass--and the Sacraments)
- The Magisterium (The Church's teachings)

Why do we recognize these three? Because Christianity is a religion of the Word, not of a book. The Word is a person--Jesus Christ. Each of the revelations above is mutually illuminating. Nothing in the three contradict each other, they reveal more about the others. Scripture is the God-breathed written revelation. Tradition is the living worship of God. The Magisterium is the means given by Christ to understand it all.

What's to answer? You posted a lot of words that tell me nothing except that you haven't read my quotations in blue. The Catholic Church clearly teaches contrary to scripture, and brags about it. This is why I wanted to know what the standard is for a Catholic? What is the basis for the religion? If you acknowledge that the church at Rome is beholden to nothing but itself, then I'm out. If you say that the church at Rome is beholden to scriptures, then please show me the scriptures that repeal the 4th Commandment and sanctify Sunday in its place.

"Nowhere in the Bible do we find that Christ or the Apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath Day, that is the 7th day of the week, Saturday. Today most Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the [Catholic] Church outside the Bible." "To Tell You the Truth," The Catholic Virginian, 22 (October 3, 1947), 9.

163 posted on 04/19/2007 11:02:09 AM PDT by kerryusama04 (John 19:31)
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To: kerryusama04

Boy, you are just hung up here.

Did you read my post #122? And a couple of others here on this thread? And a bunch of others on other threads?

We are responsible to Jesus Christ for the Bible. And we alone have the authority to interpret it. We should take the Bible as the Holy Spirit acting through the Church of Christ tells us.


164 posted on 04/19/2007 11:23:11 AM PDT by MarkBsnr
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To: kerryusama04
You posted a lot of words that tell me nothing except that you haven't read my quotations in blue.

And your re-challenges show that you don't bother to read my responses... so what's the point?

If you acknowledge that the church at Rome is beholden to nothing but itself, then I'm out. If you say that the church at Rome is beholden to scriptures, then please show me the scriptures...

Once again, the Church is beholden to Christ, Who is the Word made flesh. It is not beholden to a book and a static faith unattended by the Holy Spirit in nearly 2000 years. Christ promised He would be with His Church until the end of the age. Is He a mute? Are we to read without the aid of the Church He founded what was written 2000 years ago and create church after church based on our own interpretations? The Church is the Bride of Christ. Having one mind and one purpose makes far more sense than that She be a schitzophrenic unable to agree with her own self as is the Protestant model.

Regarding the Sabbath: Catholic Answers

Essentially, Abraham was justified in faith before his circumcision and before the Ten Commandments... as was Noah... as was Enoch. As Jesus said, the whole law is summarized in loving God with our whole mind, soul and strength and loving our neighbor as ourselves. He did far more to break the hold of the rigid Sabbath observance than anyone. God doesn't demand legalism. He demands our love. If we love God and love our neighbor, we are keeping His commands. The day of the week on which we worship is not the most critical issue in the cosmos (Col 2:16).

By the way, I've read the source material that you are using to get your quotes. I'm with wideawake... they aren't worthy of comment.

165 posted on 04/19/2007 11:52:44 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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