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To: pgyanke; kerryusama04
Mark 16:1 When the Sabbath was over, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint Jesus' body.

When chapters and verses were added to the scriptures (1225 A.D.) it was done without divine inspiration. What you are about to learn may take some thought, but you will see the flow of scripture if you are honest.

There were two Sabbaths that week and John alludes to the first one here[John 19:31] The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. Well....this is the same Sabbath spoken of in [Mark 16:1]. That particular year it fell on a Wednesday night/Thursday and was an Annual (special) Sabbath.

I'm going to show you everything from [Mark 15:42-47] and then include [Mark 16:1] to show the proper ending of Mark's train of thought. And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

What I highlighted in red was [Mark 16:1] to show you the actual ending of Mark's chapter 15.....and you can obviously see Mark's thought process when you read it that way.

The reason the chapters were divided that way is to show an agenda for Sunday as the day of resurrection. [Mark 16:2] is the only place in scripture that (in the Greek) shows a sunrise visit to the tomb.....but the previous verse happened three days earlier....prior to the Special Sabbath of Unleavened Bread.

Another reason we know that this Sabbath was not Saturday is because the women in [Mark 16:1] buy spices after that Sabbath. When Our Saviour was placed in the tomb right before sunset of that Special Sabbath the women had to wait all of Wednesday night/Thursday before they could buy any spices and [Luke 23:56] shows they went home after purchasing those spices, prepared them......Thursday night/Friday..... and rested again for the weekly Sabbath.

So to get back to your original challenge....[Mark 16:1] is not occurring on a Sunday.

Now....[Mark 16:2-8] And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. And they said among themselves, Who shall roll us away the stone from the door of the sepulchre? And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted. And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him. But go your way, tell his disciples and Peter that he goeth before you into Galilee: there shall ye see him, as he said unto you. And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulchre; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.

First, two important things. The Tomb is empty.....and these women are not the same women who had visited earlier on the weekly Sabbath afternoon....finding also an empty tomb. If you notice the last line shows that "These" women are afraid and tell no one; whereas in [Matthew 28:8][Luke 24:9] and [John 20:2] the other women all run and tell the disciples....and these passages are to be shown occurring on Sabbath afternoon....late.

When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.

Two things here: There is no punctuation in the Greek so I can just as easily interpret this as: When Jesus rose, early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons. And there is some doubt as to the authenticity of [Mark 16:9-20] The two most reliable manuscripts do not show these verses. This is common knowledge.

Luke 24:1 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, the women took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. ...6 "He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee: 7 'The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.'"

This, again simply shows an empty tomb.....and the Greek does not say "On the first day of the week". It says: And on the first of the sabbaths, at early dawn, they came to the tomb, bearing the spices they made ready, and certain [others] with them. The Greek actually says the same thing here as I pointed out to everyone in my post #89. "Mia twn Sabbatwn"....meaning "One of the Sabbaths"....not Sunday.

Matthew 28:1 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

The translators again are attempting to show their bias. If you honestly look at the Greek you will see that it says something like this: [Matthew 28:1]And on the eve of the sabbaths, at the dawn, toward the first of the sabbaths, came Mary the Magdalene, and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre.

[John 20:1] And on the first of the sabbaths, Mary the Magdalene doth come early (there being yet darkness) to the tomb, and she seeth the stone having been taken away out of the tomb.

The point being, of course.....Mary Magdalene and friends all visit the tomb late on the Sabbath and find it empty. They then run excitedly to tell the disciples (unlike the women of Mark 16:2). I again make my statement which you were unable to refute. There is no scripture that will show a Sunday resurrection. It is a myth propagated by the Roman Catholic Church......never happened....and many are being deceived!

Sorry I took so long in getting back. It's been an extremely busy day for me....and I wanted to treat this subject with the detail it needed.

178 posted on 04/19/2007 4:36:26 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618
You have made the same beginner's error in translating Greek. Learn about the genitive of time, and get back to me.
183 posted on 04/19/2007 5:23:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Diego1618
I'm sorry. Your post is "exhibit #1" in why Christ gave us His Church to help us understand His Word.

I'm going to apply the much abused Occam's Razor to this situation:

Which is more likely:

That Christ rose on the Third Day after His Crucifixion as He said He would...

John 2:18 The Jews, therefore, answered, and said to him: What sign dost thou shew unto us, seeing thou dost these things? 19 Jesus answered and said to them: Destroy this temple; and in three days I will raise it up. 20 The Jews then said: Six and forty years was this temple in building; and wilt thou raise it up in three days? 21 But he spoke of the temple of his body. 22 When therefore he was risen again from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this: and they believed the scripture and the word that Jesus had said.

That He was removed from the Cross on the eve of the Sabbath (setting of the sun on the day before Saturday) as recorded and the women came to prepare His Body after the Sabbath (rising of the sun on Sunday) as recorded and found the tomb empty.

or

That the Catholic Church and every splinter Christian denomination since is wrong despite 2000 years of study and debate.

201 posted on 04/20/2007 7:40:09 AM PDT by pgyanke (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPROMISE YOUR PRINCIPLES ANYWAY... WHY WAIT?)
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