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To: Eagle Eye; DouglasKC; XeniaSt; kerryusama04
Dude, you ask forgiveness because deep inside you believe that you are sinning!

[1 John 3:4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

[Romans 3:23] For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

I guess my question now is....How can there be any sin if you say there is no law?

221 posted on 04/26/2007 8:08:23 PM PDT by Diego1618
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To: Diego1618; DouglasKC

Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

How can it get clearer that than? We are under grace, not under the law.

Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

That I John 3:4 quote was taken totally out of context and I’m surprised that you used it at all. It is about Christ taking away our sin and the continued struggle of the flesh to obey the will of God.

Yes, if you murder you have sinned and displeased God. But are you in obedience to God just because you haven’t murdered? No. Or are you righteous because you haven’t murdered? No.

Are you righteous because you obey ordinances, traditions, and laws? No. Absolutely not.

Waling by the spirit means that you can ‘sin’ by disobeying God in areas where there is no specific written law! You could be saved, born again of God’s holy spirit and still lead a disobedient life by rejecting the instructions of God’s spirit.

Did Moses break a written commandment? No. But he disobeyed and suffered for it anyway.

We can disobey by not ministering when the spirit leads us to do so, or by simply failing to love our neighbor as ourselves!

When one is weak in faith one will rely on the law and the ordniances of what to eat, drink, etc.

When one is strong in faith then all becomes permissible when led by the spirit.

If you are asking forgiveness for eating a porkchop, having a beer, smoking a cigarette, dancing, etc, then you’re still not firm in faith.

And before anyone feels the need to say it, overindulgence in anything is lust, and therefore sin. We aren’t to use our liberty to satisfy lustful carnal cravings.

Gal 5:3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

Gal 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.


223 posted on 04/27/2007 5:36:25 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Pelosi Democrats agree with Al Queda more often than they agree with President Bush.)
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