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To: Zionist Conspirator
Most Catholics (very much including the over-educated hyper-intellectual clergy and theologians) insist that "we now know" that the Bible is full of mistakes.

Hmmm, I'm thinking of the whole friend and cliff saying. It doesn't matter what "most" Catholics insist.

"The inspired books teach the truth. 'Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures.'" - Catechism of the Catholic Church

36 posted on 05/06/2007 3:53:34 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Jesu, Jesu, Jesu, esto mihi Jesus" -St. Ralph Sherwin's last words at Tyburn)
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To: Pyro7480
"The inspired books teach the truth. 'Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures.'" - Catechism of the Catholic Church

So? The vast majority of Catholics merely invoke the clause "that truth which G-d, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures" and then say obviously when the Bible says the world was created in six days it doesn't actually mean that the world was created in six days; or that when the Bible says that Adam lived 930 years it doesn't really mean that he actually lived for 930 years; or that the story of Noah's Ark was not "confided to Sacred Scripture" to give us any factual information about Noah or the Ark. Oh no, these are inspired allegories and fables and it is only the non-factual "theological truth" behind them that is infallible. Furthermore, G-d used pagan mythologies to teach this truth.

Do you deny that this is the attitude of most Catholics and practically all the clergy?

50 posted on 05/06/2007 5:19:59 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Koh 'amar HaShem: 'Arur hagever 'asher yivtach ba'adam vesam basar zero`o; umin-HaShem yasur libbo!)
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To: Pyro7480
Hmmm, I'm thinking of the whole friend and cliff saying. It doesn't matter what "most" Catholics insist.

It doesn't? It doesn't matter that your "official" position is buried on some ancient yellowing parchment that most Catholics are embarrassed about and has been completely buried in the here and now by liberalism? Your "unaltered and unchanged and infallible" Church doesn't have the slightest responsibility to discipline people who deny these "unaltered" but embarrassing teachings?

You can say anything you like about the "official" teaching of the Church, but what good is it if no one knows waht it is or if the Pope (an evolutionist) doesn't believe it??? What good is such an "official position?"

When I consider the simplicity with which Fundamentalist Protestants adhere to total Biblical inerrancy, in the face of not only atheists and agnostics but also of carpers and critics from the "ancient, unaltered, apostolic" churches I wonder how any member of any of the ancient liturgical churches can look himself in the mirror.

The ancient churches are rotting from the top. The clergy are the most liberal members and while they do a great deal of bashing of "Protestantism," their attacks are limited to Fundamentalist Protestants and they have even been influenced by liberal Protestants (who get off scot-free from criticism).

If you can sit there knowing that the simplest mountain preacher says things every day regardless of the consequences that your Church hasn't said for a hundred years and not feel a bit humbled then there is no need communicating with you.

59 posted on 05/06/2007 5:44:02 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Koh 'amar HaShem: 'Arur hagever 'asher yivtach ba'adam vesam basar zero`o; umin-HaShem yasur libbo!)
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