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To: kawaii

My usage of the term jurisdiction was in reference to episcopal jurisdiction, not patriarchal or autocephalous. As for the Eastern Rite Catholics, their separate episcopal jurisdictions are based either on rites or ethnic origins (as is the case with the multiple Orthodox jurisdiction in the West). With the ROCOR and OCA there will be the case of two different bishops ministering in the same territory to parishes of the same rite and same ethnic origin.


10 posted on 05/17/2007 10:00:48 AM PDT by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

not if you peg the low russians/ruthenian/ukrainian types as different from the high russians, and note that generally speaking the oca uses english only and generally speaking rocor uses slavonic only.

there are DEFINITLY ethnic and liturgic differences between the two.

uniates as i recall use more less the same right, often they also use the same english language liturgy if they have multiple services. yet they report to different bishops.


11 posted on 05/17/2007 10:05:05 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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also btw there’s probably not a lot of places where that even is true. (there’s a couple cities where parishes split into oca and rocor but over the vast majority of the territory there is either an oca OR a rocor but not both.


12 posted on 05/17/2007 10:06:52 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Petrosius

Uniates can parish hop to avoid their rulling bishop in many cases...

For example...

New York City

St. Ann’s Cathedral (Armenian/New York)
110 East 12th Street, New York, NY, 10003, Phone: (212) 477-2030, FAX: (212) 477-2185
Holy Cross (Byzantine - Ruthenian/Passaic)
323 East 82nd Street, New York, NY, 10028, Phone: (212) 737-1159

St. George(Byzantine - Ukrainian/Stamford)
22 E. 7th St., New York, NY 10003, Phone: (212) 674-1615

St. Mary (Byzantine - Ruthenian/Passaic)
246 East 15th Street, New York, NY, 10003, Phone: (212) 677-0516

St. Michael’s Russian Byzantine Catholic Church (Byzantine - Russian/Under the jursdiction of the local Roman ordinary)
266 Mulberry St, NY, NY 10012, Phone: (212) 226-2644
Vespers: Saturday night at 6:00 pm; Divine Liturgy: Sundays at 11:00 am
email: ayatriada@aol.com

http://artemis.crosslink.net/~hrycak/ch_indx/us-ny.html


13 posted on 05/17/2007 10:09:05 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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