why is it that no miracle was ever done by the hands of Luther, Calvin or the other Reformers?
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The reason Luther, Calvin and the other Reformers did not perform miracles is BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GOD.
Nor were they among the 11 apostles entrusted to spread the word of Jesus Christ which they had witnessed with their own eyes.
Apostolic miracles ended with the Apostles. And the reason for that is because CHRIST AND THE WRITTEN SCRIPTURE WITNESSING HIS LIFE, DEATH AND RESURRECTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE ENOUGH FOR US CHRISTIANS.
Those who seek "more proof" just might be given more of something that won't benefit them. Sadly, it will do just the opposite by distancing them from the truth of Christ risen.
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth." -- Matthew 12:38-40"Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.
The only "sign" we should need is the truth of the resurrection.
Look to Christ and not to rice-paper pills, empty relics, dead saints, wooden statues, vacant rituals and all other assorted manner of voodoo.
"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" -- Gal. 3:1
Hi, Irish. Ping to 31.
why is it that no miracle was ever done by the hands of Luther, Calvin or the other Reformers?
Reforming Christ's church was quite a miracle, wouldn't you say?
Of course, we don’t NEED miracles. We don’t NEED signs. But that did not stop God from performing signs, through Moses, through many other Old Testament figures, through Christ Himself, through the apostles, and through many people since. God after all DID perform signs through Paul and Peter, as reported in Acts. Obviously, “apostolic miracles” ended with the apostles: that is what we call in logic a tautology. Just as “prophetic miracles” ended with the prophets, “Mosaic miracles” ended with Moses. The question is, did ALL miracles end with the apostles? There is no reason to think so. And the great majority of Protestants in the world do not think so. We are told not to demand miracles. But we also should also not mock the idea that God still may be performing them in today’s world.
Doubtless, there are many fraudulant claims of miracles. I strongly suspect that many of the miracles done by televangelists are fraudulant. I hesitate to say that they all are, as dubious as they seem, because it would be presumptuous of me to set limits to what God can do. I also suspect that the vast majority of purported apparitions of Mary, on drainpipes or whatever, are bogus. It is precisely because of the fact of fraudulant claims of the miraculous
that it is so useful that the Catholic Church does rigorous investigations of purported miracles. And the fact is, as anyone who looks into the matter will find, that many of the miracles documented in those investigations have enormously strong evidence in their favor. I say this as a person who is a research scientist and somewhat skeptical by nature.
Simple truth : Our lord Jesus was crucified on a THURSDAY, not friday, count on your fingers : THREE DAYS and THREE NIGHTS. Also, dec 25 is the roman god Jupiter’s “birthday”, Jesus was born in early january as the eastern orthodox believe. Many more truths to know, as the little book that tastes sweet in the mouth but bitter in the stomach.