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To: GoLightly
You trying to say that we should never accept anything AS GUARANTEED INFALLIBLE TRUTH, any position on anything from our Catholic brothers & sisters except official Church documents, in the official Church translation of them?

Actually, more or less, yes. The actual formal teaching of the Church, based on the Sacred Scriptures and the Sacred Tradition, guaranteed by the Holy Spirit and expressed in eg. Councils and Encyclicals IS the standard of belief to which any Catholic (should) hold himself. And that's all in the public domain. Anything else is just my own private, personal, fallible interpretation of Scripture.

Surprised?

You shouldn't be ... I have no desire whatsoever to commit heresy. If I'm found to be maintaining some theological position which is at odds with Catholic Dogma or Catholic Doctrine, by all means let me know. I certainly wish to correct the error.

Beware, though ... not all the musings of priests, bishops, or even popes are Catholic Dogma or Catholic Doctrine.

The problem, of course, is with the Protestants who have no objective standard to which they can refer. "The Scripture Alone" effectively makes every man his own pope ... and leads to chaos.

155 posted on 06/13/2007 1:44:47 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
The problem, of course, is with the Protestants who have no objective standard to which they can refer. "The Scripture Alone" effectively makes every man his own pope ... and leads to chaos.

See post #141. Some of us have more objective standards than others.

159 posted on 06/13/2007 1:56:30 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
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To: ArrogantBustard
Surprised?

Not at all, because I know what your Church teaches in that area.

I have no desire whatsoever to commit heresy. If I'm found to be maintaining some theological position which is at odds with Catholic Dogma or Catholic Doctrine, by all means let me know. I certainly wish to correct the error.

If I ever find a need to correct you, I will use the standard that your Church applies.

Beware, though ... not all the musings of priests, bishops, or even popes are Catholic Dogma or Catholic Doctrine.

You're not telling me anything that I didn't already know.

The problem, of course, is with the Protestants who have no objective standard to which they can refer. "The Scripture Alone" effectively makes every man his own pope ... and leads to chaos.

That may be a problem for you, but it is not for any of us. We see something we believe is incorrect, we'll appeal to that which we recognize as our authority. While it may seem to be chaotic to you & in some ways it is, none of us think ourselves to be Pope, less you think the laity are free to correct the Pope after he's taken an official position.

161 posted on 06/13/2007 2:07:20 PM PDT by GoLightly
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