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To: P-Marlowe
I don't "warn" people about their belief in a post tribulation rapture. I could care less if people believe in a pre-trib, mid trib or post trib rapture. As paul says, it is a MYSTERY.

Would you warn them if you felt they were in jeopardy?

At any rate, eshcatology is not central to Christian belief. So we ought not to be questioning either the intelligence or the good will of those who disagree with us on this issue.

Do you feel I question your intelligence or good will. If you do I haven't made my case properly and I apologize. That was never my intention, nor do I believe that.

105 posted on 07/09/2007 2:37:50 PM PDT by Ping-Pong
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To: Ping-Pong; tnarg
Would you warn them if you felt they were in jeopardy?

Nobody is in jeopardy for having a mistaken notion about eschatology. Nobody will go to hell because they didn't have correct beliefs about the rapture. Having a mistaken belief about the rapture is not a sin. The whole thing is a mystery. When push comes to shove, I think we will all someday find out that we were all wrong in one way or another.

Do you feel I question your intelligence or good will.

No but some people think we are all brainwashed. Hogwash.

106 posted on 07/09/2007 3:14:14 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Ping-Pong; P-Marlowe; tnarg; Iscool
“Would you warn them if you felt they were in jeopardy?”

Let’s see, clouds are groups of people; air is spirit; rising first means coming down; the restrainer of evil is Michael; and the one who comes according to the workings of Satan is Jesus. All of this truth in code to a brand new church that Paul had only a short time to establish and a Gentile one at that. Why would Paul use symbolic language to answer very clear and important questions, like, “if the Lord’s return is at hand what about the dead in Christ?” Or, “we just got this message that the Lord is returning, is it true?” when all he has to do is use the usual meaning of words they would understand, like clouds mean clouds and air means air and we will rise to meet Jesus who is bringing the dead in Christ with Him to be united with their resurrection bodies. Now that is a heck of a lot clearer than the tortuous route of symbol.

Gentiles would have no knowledge of Michael, the prince of Israel. He is only mentioned twice in the Old Testament in Daniel 10. Why would baby Gentile Christians jump to the conclusion that “he that restrains” would be an angel when they have been taught that God, the Holy Spirit is present with them to lead, comfort and guide them unlike His operation during the time of Daniel? Is the Holy Spirit incapable of multi-tasking?

How can you warn with such an uncertain sound?

107 posted on 07/09/2007 7:43:16 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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