Yes, you are correct. A couple of years ago, I asked my former TLM priest a similar question. We have both the TLM and the NO at our parish. We have a couple of TLM attendees who question the validity of the consecration of the NO Hosts reserved in the tabernacle. I asked my priest that if for any reason that unconsecrated hosts were in the tabernacle, would they be consecrated when he said the words of consecration? His reply was no, the hosts must be on the altar in front of him for the consecration to occur.
Since none of these 6 cups was removed from the Tabernacle, then they are not left over from a previous Mass ... correct? What the heck!!!
It is hard to say one way or the other. Some parishes have another tabernacle in the sacristy or a side chapel. Though usually the tabernacle in the sanctuary is not used if another tabernacle is being used elsewhere.
The only charitable explaination that I can think of is that there was so many Hosts and so much Wine consecrated at a previous Mass that it could not be contained in the main tabernacle. Therefore the consecrated Elements were reserved in another tabernacle or someplace safe and under lock and key.
I know of a parish that has a Perpetual Adoration Chapel. At the Sunday Masses (5) just before Holy Communion either the Deacon or the EMHC would go to the chapel to obtain the ciborium of Hosts. After Holy Communion, the ciborium would be returned to the chapel and placed, exposed next to the monstrance, under the watch of the adorers present. At the final Mass of the day, after Holy Communion, the remaining consecrated Hosts would be placed in the tabernacle for Viaticum.
Finally, there is the kooky idea that the stupid laity get very confused and disturbed because Christ is present on the Altar, present in the Word, present in our song and present in the assembly. And if He is present in the tabernacle, well the laity can't handle that. Why the poor dears will be so addled due to the confusion of playing Where's Waldo, er , I mean where's Christ that they will be permanently brain damaged.
BTW, welcome to the club of religious fanatacism. My parents think the same of me.
“Some parishes have another tabernacle in the sacristy or a side chapel.”
I thought that only one tabernacle was allowed in a regular parish church?
The Precious Blood is never allowed to be reserved from a previous Mass.
To knowingly distribute or receive unconsecrated bread or wine seems to me like idolatry.
You are most charitable in your response. Since the 5pm Mass on Saturday is the first "weekend" Mass, it would be impossible for there to be enough 'previously' consecrated wine and hosts to fill 6 cups. No, absolutely not! I am very familiar with this parish. It is large but not large enough for them to have be so disorganized as to have that much left over from a weekday Mass.
Finally, there is the kooky idea that the stupid laity get very confused and disturbed because Christ is present on the Altar, present in the Word, present in our song and present in the assembly. And if He is present in the tabernacle, well the laity can't handle that.
This is an upscale parish ... affluent and well educated parishioners. Even so, they place total trust in their pastor to deliver to them the proper liturgy. It would never occur to anyone of them to read the GIRM much less confront the pastor on a possible abuse, because he is perceived as very orthodox.
After posting this thread, I called my pastor and described in detail the exact sequence of events at this Mass. Though I know otherwise, I asked if it were possible for the Consecration to extend beyond the walls of the Sanctuary and into the Sacristy. He assured me that it was not possible. He too was surprised at what occured but rationalized it by noting that the pastor in question is one of the bishop's right hand men.
welcome to the club of religious fanatacism. My parents think the same of me.
I wasn't always this way. Despite 12 years of Catholic school, I have my fellow Catholic freepers to thank for much of my Catholic education. And, once you know the truth, there is no turning back.
Our Lord not only heard and responded to my prayer to lead me to "a holy priest, a reverent liturgy and a community where my God-given abilities could be of assistance", He has delivered me to parish where my Catholic faith has grown immensely and the pastor is just a cell phone call away, at any time of day. This is such a blessing!