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To: irishtenor

***No, but then again, you never have. Call me when you have the Spirit. You’ll know.***

Gnostics are “people who know”, and their knowledge at once constitutes them a superior class of beings, whose present and future status was essentially different from that of those who, for whatever reason, did not know.

Seems like your confession fits the bill quite well.


13,107 posted on 01/30/2008 8:12:40 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr; irishtenor; kosta50; Kolokotronis
Gnostics are “people who know”, and their knowledge at once constitutes them a superior class of beings, whose present and future status was essentially different from that of those who, for whatever reason, did not know. Seems like your confession fits the bill quite well.

Not at all. If Gnostics believed they were a special class of people, to whom only special knowledge would flow, then according to Reformers we are no more Gnostic than you are, since we have no more special access to the knowledge of God than you do, as Christians.

The confessions certainly do distinguish between Christians and non-Christians in terms of ABILITY to know because the former has been given grace, which is required to know as the Bible tells us. However, I am unaware of where the confessions say that Reformers can know something that other Christians cannot (if they were willing to give up then current beliefs).

A few Latins here have made kind offers to me to, in effect, come to the true faith of the Apostolic Church. I assume those offers would not have been made if the person thought there was some impediment beyond my control that would prevent me from making the switch. (Otherwise, it would have just been mean, and I have never gotten that impression. :) It is the same with us. As a Christian there would be nothing preventing you from becoming a Reformer. (I was once a non-Reformed Christian.) There are no Reformed "secrets" that are "beyond" your understanding, just as there were none that stopped me. Further, it is not required at all to be a Reformer to get into Heaven. One just need be a saved Christian. I am hoping that all of these points would draw a strong distinction in your mind between Gnosticism and Reformed theology.

13,166 posted on 02/10/2008 9:38:09 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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