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To: kosta50; xzins; Zero Sum; irishtenor; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; ...

Sorry, but I don’t buy off on the whole leap of faith concept.

Faith is the reasonable response to the evidence provided. Of course a Calvinist would say God provides our faith, the reason. Faith is not a blind leap.


13,146 posted on 02/02/2008 1:01:39 PM PST by Gamecock (Aaron had what every mega-church pastor craves: a huge crowd that gave freely and lively worship.)
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To: Gamecock; kosta50; xzins; Zero Sum; irishtenor; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu
Leap of Faith...

It's not a leap of faith.

It's a PUSH of Faith.

Someone pushed me. :>)

13,147 posted on 02/02/2008 1:13:42 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain! True Supporters of Our Troops Support the Necessity of their Sacrifice!)
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To: Gamecock

***Of course a Calvinist would say God provides our faith, the reason. Faith is not a blind leap.***

Of course it is. Faith by definition differs wholly and substantially from reason and proof. The only way that someone could say that their faith was not blind was if they were Gnostic.

There is evidence, sure. I have experienced holy places and been unable to describe or even understand them. I have also experienced one encounter with concentrated evil and cannot describe or be wholly coherant about it either.

We have evidence, but not proof. We have experiences but not substantiation.


13,157 posted on 02/04/2008 6:22:36 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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