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To: kosta50; xzins; Gamecock; Zero Sum; irishtenor; MarkBsnr; Kolokotronis; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu; ...
"God does not make sense because anything that is eternal, simple, indivisible, transcendental, bigger than the universe, yet somehow can empty itself into a womb of a woman etc., does not really make much sense."

But at the level of Faith we know it is True that Ο ΩΝ, that which is the essence and origin of "being" itself, was contained within the womb of the Most Holy Theotokos and that that womb of a very human young woman was broader than the heavens because it did contain Ο ΩΝ.

This is not a concept which is difficult for Orthodox to understand or accept since as Kosta will assure you, every Sunday when we attend the Divine Liturgy, when we lift our eyes above the Royal Doors of the iconstasion, we see this:

The icon Theotokos Platytera, Broader than the Heavens is always depicted behind and up above the altar in Orthodox Churches. What the human intellect says makes no sense is for us made both rational and True through the Theotokos Platytera who is the connection "between the Creator and creation, between God and man, heaven and earth."

13,150 posted on 02/02/2008 3:29:49 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis; xzins; Gamecock; Zero Sum; irishtenor; MarkBsnr; P-Marlowe; Frumanchu
But at the level of Faith we know it is True thatO W N, that which is the essence and origin of "being" itself, was contained within the womb of the Most Holy Theotokos and that that womb of a very human young woman was broader than the heavens because it did contain O W N

Throuigh faith, not through reason, or logic. Through faith the Resurrection is real and "makes [spiritual] sense."

13,151 posted on 02/02/2008 4:15:34 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Kolokotronis; kosta50
The icon Theotokos Platytera, Broader than the Heavens is always depicted behind and up above the altar in Orthodox Churches. What the human intellect says makes no sense is for us made both rational and True through the Theotokos Platytera who is the connection "between the Creator and creation, between God and man, heaven and earth."

Beautifully stated!

13,152 posted on 02/02/2008 8:56:48 PM PST by stfassisi ("Above all gifts that Christ gives his beloved is that of overcoming self"St Francis Assisi)
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