[Iscool]

You are presenting the deceptive "we are all a little right" theology that says no church is God's true church,

God would never teach us such a lie.

Well, that's pretty much what God teaches...And just because you don't believe it doesn't make it a lie...

Jesus, nor Peter, nor Paul created the Orthodox church, or the Catholic church, or the Presbyterian church...

Paul didn't create the Roman church...He created the church, at Rome... How do you guys miss that...

The church is people...Not a religion...

You can't be born into the church...You can only get into the church by accepting Jesus' death as the atonement for your sins...

Christians do not strive for the 'presence of Jesus'...Christians are in the presence of Jesus 24/7/365...

Multi-million dollar Cathedrals and religious rituals will get you absolutely nothing...

[adiaireton8]

"Obey your leaders and submit to them; for they keep watch over your souls, as those who will give an account." - Hebrews 13:17

So who are the present-day leaders we are supposed to obey?

-A8

[kosta50]

The church is people

And all the believers are little a "right" and a little "wrong," correct? Or are we all "right" and all those differences we proclaim are "nonessential?"

The error, imo, of the Protestant/Baptist world is that the focus is on the individual believer, who claims to be guided by the Holy Spirit but in truth relies entirely on his or her personal interpretation of the Bible and creates an entirely private theology and calls it "true."

It appears to be narcissism at its very worst. I believe it is arrogance and self-deception founded on "inner knowledge" (an extreme form of esoteric thinking) which, when expressed outwardly, shows a rainbow of beliefs, all different from each other, some more, others less so. Protestantism/Baptism thus appears to be thoroughly gnostic, cleverly disguised as it may be, but gnostic nonetheless.

Thus, when some Protestant tells me that some Mormons are "true" Christians because they accept Christ as their Savior, and ignores the fact that Mormons deny Triune God, that they are a polytheistic (pagan) cult using only Christian nomenclature for its gods, believing in three different "gods" and claiming that "God the Father" used to be a man, and that Christ's "brother" is none other than Satan, the nature of heresy becomes evident.

Obviously the Christ they claim is not the Christian God, yet some Protestants will embrace them as "true" believers, just because they claim "Christ" as their savior. Two wrongs don't make it right.

The Church is not "the people" who believe whatever they want. Only Satan would want us to believe that there is no one true Church, and that everyone's private opinion is true faith.