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To: DungeonMaster
Yes, Marianism is the biggest problem with Catholic Doctrine as it shines a light on the method by which Catholic doctrine is derived. Specifically, it shows how little need there is for the bible in generating said doctrine.

To the contrary, it shows how unwilling Protestants are to draw the obvious conclusions required by Scripture.

Proof: the rejection of Mary's intercession is always couched in the language of "you can't ask dead people to pray for you," thus rejecting the words of Jesus when he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one who believes in me will ever die."

57 posted on 07/24/2007 7:52:33 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Campion
Proof: the rejection of Mary's intercession is always couched in the language of "you can't ask dead people to pray for you," thus rejecting the words of Jesus when he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one who believes in me will ever die."

Necromancy is still necromancy and spiritism is still spiritism. No one is the bible ever prays to Mary or to any other dead person except when they are pagans. Never in the bible when we are being shown how to pray are we ever told to pray to the dead, we are always told to pray to the God directly.

59 posted on 07/24/2007 8:03:49 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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To: Campion
Proof: the rejection of Mary's intercession is always couched in the language of "you can't ask dead people to pray for you," thus rejecting the words of Jesus when he said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no one who believes in me will ever die."

Nicely put.

86 posted on 07/24/2007 9:43:10 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: Campion; Dr. Eckleburg; fortheDeclaration
Is it not true though, that Catholic doctrine says that the only way to Jesus Christ is through Mary? After reading some of the doctrines, that's what it appears to be, thus the reason for the co-redemptionist thing
103 posted on 07/24/2007 10:19:37 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.)
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