Posted on 07/26/2007 6:41:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator
John, You have to seriously fast and pray for the truth regarding the Old Testament from God Himself. None other. God the Father revealed Himself to the world through His loving relationship with the Jewish people of Israel, and He will again. Your hatred of the Talmud makes me think you don’t like authority. I have to ask you this. When Jesus returns (He does so only once) and saves Israel and the faithful from the beast, He is very angry and destroys the beast’s followers. He then sets up His government in Jerusalem. What kind of government will He establish? Will it be a turn the other cheek, or an eye for an eye establishment? Do you not know that Jesus obeyed the Old Testament Law perfectly? He fulfilled the law. We are told to love our enemies because we want to be forgiven, but Jesus doesn’t have to love His enemies.
What "parts of the Tanakh" are you referring to???
That's fine but did "True G-d if the TaNaKH" also give you "the Noachide Laws" or "The Talmud"??? don't think so.
Thus aren't you making the same mistake so many who call themselves Christians make by adulterating and diluting the truth of the Scriptures with extraneous writings that do not issue forth from the hand of the True God, the God of Israel???
It’s s*mple, Z*-n*st C-nsp*rat-r.
Fundamentists are Christians, not “chr*stians,” and they don’t want to throw out the Christ with the “chr*stianity.”
Perhaps you need to visit a slaughterhouse some day --- that "barbarism" and "bloodbath" has been going on since the beginning of time and still puts meat on your plate.
Would you suggest that the priests of Temple should have let the animals go and fail in their duty before the God of Israel???
The Crucifixion was likewise bloody. Perhaps you have forgotten that "without the shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness of sin". You'll find that not only Paul's last letter, the one to the Hebrews, but also in the TaNaKH --- Leviticus 17:11. Or is that the part of the TaNaKH that you don't consider to be inspired by the God of Israel???
You are an apostate.
Richard Dawkins’ latest book ‘The God Delusion’ has an almost identical critique of the Old Testament G-d that you put forward. He basically asserts that the G-d of the OT is ‘the most hateful character in all of Western Literature’ Just amusing that Dawkins’ atheist polemic would match the rhetoric of a devout Christian. Nothing personal just an observation.
Registering my disgust with the “God” of the Tanakh for answering the prayer of his prophet to slaughter 40 children who were making fun of his bald head is the same as me renouncing my Lord and Saviour who warned against harming children?
If anything, I could turn this around on you and say you are blaspheming the Holy Name of Christ by associating Him with that Beast.
Yes very funny. Apparently one of the charges leveled against devout Christians by the ancient Pagans of Rome were that they were atheists. History repeating itself?
I couldn’t make it past book II or III, I don’t remember. I found it quite boring. The only passage I like (and is still somewhat in my memory) is the clash between Abdiel and Satan. Aside from that, the less said about Milton and his work, the better.
Sorry, for some reason I saw that and thought Milton. No, I’ve never read anything by Blake. I didn’t even know of his religious views till you mentioned it.
Do thousands of innocent children not die every day of natural causes?
Whose responsibility is that?
You don't quibble over the deaths of untold millions of innocents over the millenia, but you are concerned over 40 who were guilty of sacrilege?
Bizarre perspective - but not unexpected in someone who claims the ability to judge God.
If anything, I could turn this around on you and say you are blaspheming the Holy Name of Christ by associating Him with that Beast.
The same Christ who affirmed that the Scriptures of his Jewish people testified of Him?
That would be an equally bizarre strategy.
Unfortunately JP is avowedly (see his home page) under the influence of Marcionism, and ancient heresy that insists that the Jewish G-d is not that of chr*stianity. Wideawake will know better than I whether he also taught that the gnostic doctrine that the created universe is itself evil.
[Do thousands of innocent children not die every day of natural causes?]
The children in question didn’t die of natural causes. Elisha prayed to “God” to curse the children and “God” obliged him by sending 2 she bears to slaughter them. All because they made fun of his bald head. CHILDREN.
[Bizarre perspective - but not unexpected in someone who claims the ability to judge God.]
I wouldn’t dare think I could judge any member of the Godhead (not the Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit), but disapproving of Satan’s vile actions is not something I’m ashamed of.
[The same Christ who affirmed that the Scriptures of his Jewish people testified of Him?]
The same Christ who came to free us of the Curse of the Law and it’s lunatic author? Yes that Christ.
Unfortunately for you, G-d is ultimately in charge of everything. Satan is not in rebellion; he is doing his job! And even evil is under the ultimate control of G-d. I realize you believe that there are two "gxds," one who is good and one who is evil, but that is dualism, not monotheism. Perhaps you are not so much a Marcionite as a zoroastrian, Cathar, or Theosophist.
At any rate, please stop pinging me with your childish and blasphemous notion that you can sit in judgement on A-mighty G-d. If you continue to annoy me, I assure you that I will report you.
[If you continue to annoy me, I assure you that I will report you.]
Go right ahead. I never attacked you personally or used foul language on this thread. If you consider sticking up for my religion against YOUR blasphemous garbage “harassing” you, then I can’t help you.
And just who, in God's name, do you think your "lunatic" author of the Law was???????? Yes that Christ ----- and His Father.
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