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Swedish Church to Join Stockholm Gay Pride Parade
AFP ^ | 8/2/07

Posted on 08/03/2007 11:31:06 AM PDT by marshmallow

The Swedish Lutheran Church will march for for the first time in the Gay Pride parade in Stockholm under the slogan "Love is stronger that everything", the Church announced on Thursday.

"For the first time ever, the parade at the Pride festival will have a delegation from the Swedish Church," it said in a statement.

The parade will go through the streets of the Swedish capital on Saturday.

The Church said the delegation would include about 30 people including two deans from the Stockholm and Uppsala cathedrals.

It said it also wanted to "break the masses' big silence" regarding gays, bisexuals and transexuals.

"The Swedish Church is a Church open to everyone," Uppsala priest Ann-Katrin Bosbach explained.

Sweden, already a pioneer in giving same-sex couples the right to adopt children, looks set to allow gays to marry in the Lutheran Church by introducing a new marriage law in January 2008.

If the so-called "gender neutral" marriage legislation is adopted, the Scandinavian country would become the first in the world to allow gays to marry within a major Church.

Stockholm Pride is Scandinavia's largest Gay Pride celebration and last year 45,000 persons participated, according to its organizers.

Homosexuality was not legalized in Sweden until 1944.


TOPICS: General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant; Moral Issues; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostasy; europeanchristians; gaypride; homosexualagenda; lutheran; protestant; religiousleft; sweden
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1 posted on 08/03/2007 11:31:09 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

What’s the next step? Mandatory gay marriage?


2 posted on 08/03/2007 11:36:42 AM PDT by MarkBsnr (V. Angelus Domini nuntiavit Mariae. R. Et concepit de Spiritu Sancto.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m sure some of my ancestors are turning in their graves.


3 posted on 08/03/2007 12:45:26 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: marshmallow

Nope no heretics in protestantism... i’m sure this comes back to some higher up ‘interpreting’ scripture so as to not make homosexuality an abomination....


4 posted on 08/03/2007 2:10:08 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii
“Nope no heretics in protestantism... i’m sure this comes back to some higher up ‘interpreting’ scripture so as to not make homosexuality an abomination....”

Friend, this is not a Protestant/Catholic/Orthodox thing, it is a liberal/Conservative thing. Something which all Christian groups struggle with.

This group has just completely given in and is now apostate.

5 posted on 08/03/2007 3:31:52 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: marshmallow

“”The Swedish Church is a Church open to everyone,” Uppsala priest Ann-Katrin Bosbach explained.”

The Swedish church is a sea of gray-heads. The last of the faithful are dying off.

Maybe they think they can replace them with fags.


6 posted on 08/03/2007 3:33:37 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

i don’t know of any canonical Orthodox churches blessing gay marriages...

that’s the problem when you recognize heretics as ‘Other Christians’ when they go do anti-Christian things you end up with a conundrum.


7 posted on 08/03/2007 3:40:28 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

“i don’t know of any canonical Orthodox churches blessing gay marriages...”

I know a “gay marriage” happened in a RO church.

(The subsequently burnt it to the ground.)


8 posted on 08/03/2007 3:44:24 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: kawaii

“that’s the problem when you recognize heretics as ‘Other Christians’ when they go do anti-Christian things you end up with a conundrum.”

There’s no problem. Remember Peter and Simon Magnus? You tell them they are going to hell and kick them out.


9 posted on 08/03/2007 3:50:18 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: kawaii

You should know that the Swedish Lutheran Church has maintained Apostolic Succession, so, of course, it would be free of doctrinal error.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 4:45:29 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

luther was an apostate, there is no validity to the sacraments of apostates.


11 posted on 08/03/2007 5:47:33 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

it is a fact that protestantism was based on heresy and so when it produces further corruption of the WORD for the express purpose of leading more faithful astray I am not surprised.

i do not find these folks to be genuine Christians and their flaws which they lavish with praise are precisely what allow for in a handful of years complete perversion of the WORD I do not feel this is a coincidence at all.

There were plenty of homosexuals in Rome’s day and the church never started marrying them yet in 400 years of protestantism every filth imaginable is endorse by SOME protestant sect preaching the beetles ‘all you need is love’ gospel.


12 posted on 08/03/2007 5:55:18 PM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: marshmallow
“It said it also wanted to “break the masses’ big silence” regarding gays, bisexuals and transexuals.”

- Most Swedes think homosexuality is unnatural, but accept the fact that some human beings don’t desire to live in normal heterosexual relationships. There’s nothing more to be said. Why should ordinary Swedes bother?

Personally, I don’t hate homosexuals, but that doesn’t mean I seek their company or care about their ‘rights’. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve got all the rights they need in order to enjoy their divergent lifestyle.

The claim that they are ‘oppressed’ is a ridiculous one. I honestly fail to understand what these claims are all about.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 11:57:11 PM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: kawaii

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.


14 posted on 08/04/2007 7:46:49 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

well it’s pretty hard to argue ‘apostolic succession’ when one rejects the teachings of the church.

it’d be as bad as saying the gnostics had apostolic succession


15 posted on 08/04/2007 8:07:33 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: kawaii

But surely Apostolic Succession guarantees that the Church remained free of doctrinal error.


16 posted on 08/04/2007 8:14:23 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
You should know that the Swedish Lutheran Church has maintained Apostolic Succession

Some Swedish Lutherans claim that, or did. Neither Rome nor the Orthodox have ever endorsed the claim.

Of course Apostolic succession does not pass through attempted "ordinations" of female bishops, so a group which attempts to ordain female bishops eventually loses Apostolic succession, even if they had it to begin with.

17 posted on 08/04/2007 8:19:13 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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But surely Apostolic Succession guarantees that the Church remained free of doctrinal error.

It might guarantee valid sacraments, but guarantees nothing about orthodoxy. Plenty of first-millennium heretics were validly ordained.

18 posted on 08/04/2007 8:20:56 AM PDT by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Actually doctrine is understood apart from Apostolic succession.

http://orthodoxwiki.org/Apostolic_succession

Do I rightly get the impression you have me confused with a Roman Catholic?


19 posted on 08/04/2007 8:24:19 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: Campion; Mr. Lucky

How the heck would a priest who left the church have a valid succession of Bishops?


20 posted on 08/04/2007 8:25:27 AM PDT by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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