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Mother Teresa Did Not Feel Christ's Presence for Last Half of Her Life, Letters Reveal
Fox News ^ | 08/24/2007 | Unknown

Posted on 08/24/2007 8:40:01 AM PDT by HarleyD

Mother Teresa of Calcutta, who has been put on the “fast track” to sainthood, was so tormented by doubts about her faith that she felt “a hypocrite,” it has emerged from a book of her letters to friends and confessors. Shortly after beginning her work in the slums of Calcutta, she wrote: “Where is my faith? Even deep down there is nothing but emptiness and darkness. If there be a God — please forgive me.” In letters eight years later she was still expressing “such deep longing for God,” adding that she felt “repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal.” Her smile to the world from her familiar weather-beaten face was a “mask” or a “cloak,” she said. “What do I labor for? If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.” Mother Teresa, who died in 1997 and was beatified in record time only six years later, felt abandoned by God from the very start of the work that made her a global figure, in her sandals and blue and white sari. The doubts persisted until her death.

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TOPICS: Catholic; General Discusssion; Mainline Protestant
KEYWORDS: christianity; faith; letters; motherteresa; nohinteresa; pharisees; religion; theusualsuspects
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To: Campion
The point of this article says for the entire second half of her life she doubted. That's a long time.

And according to her letters, that's where she ended up, in doubt, not like you and me, who thankfully have ended up in belief.

41 posted on 08/24/2007 11:30:51 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: jude24; dangus; Campion
Doubt and faith are not antithetical.

Now, as regards the orthodoxy of certain statements of Mother Teresa, I take no position. Too many of those statements are quoted by people with agendas unfriendly to Mother Theresa


42 posted on 08/24/2007 11:32:05 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Terriergal

Yep, more’s the pity.


43 posted on 08/24/2007 11:33:10 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: HarleyD; dangus; Campion
But doubts about your faith is something else.

Read Ps. 73, and get back to me about doubting your faith. It happens to the best of us.

44 posted on 08/24/2007 11:34:51 AM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
But that belief is itself a gift.

And if God chooses to give that gift in a different measure to someone else, should you or I look down on them?

"What do you have, that you have not received?"

45 posted on 08/24/2007 11:42:23 AM PDT by Campion
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To: jude24; dangus; Campion
Funny, I have doubted whether God has acted in my life, doubted whether I was in His will, doubted whether He really cared for me; but I don't ever recall doubting His existence once I came to know Him.


46 posted on 08/24/2007 11:42:32 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: Campion
Where did she say that, and what, exactly, did she say?

From a "Catholic" Source:

“I’ve always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu, a Muslim become a better Muslim, a Catholic become a better Catholic.”

“Some call Him Ishwar, some call Him Allah, some simply God, but we have to acknowledge that it is He who made us for greater things: to love and be loved. What matters is that we love. We cannot love without prayer, and so whatever religion we are, we must pray together.”

47 posted on 08/24/2007 11:45:07 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: jude24; Campion; Dr. Eckleburg

There are many things to consider here, but one of them is NOT how Mother Teresa “ended up”. Her life was in God’s hands and so her judgment is not ours to make and anyone should hesitate to do so. It is God’s mystery, not ours, how things were when she met her God face-to-face.

What I do know is that it isn’t at all uncommon for good and holy Christians to go through periods of spiritual dryness, of darkness and of doubt. Some call it the “desert experience”. Others refer to it as the Dark NIght (both in the sensory sense and in the spiritual sense). It is understood to be time of purification.

We have the Psalms to illustrate that to us—with their times of praise and temple worship and then their times of suffering and seeking God in moments of trial. We all know of the Psalm 23 “valley of darkness”, but so beautifully expressed also is the whole of Psalm 84-—”when they go through the Bitter Valley they make it a place of springs”.

It is the testimony of our lives and how we endure with God’s grace—as St.Paul writes: “all is grace”.

I think now especially of Fr. Walter Czisek as he writes of his 23 years in the Russian Gulag-—and Fr. Van Than as he smuggled his letters out to his people while suffering and imprisoned in Viet Nam.

Each of us is given that measure which God in His mysterious and wonderful will has designed for us. For some, it will be much easier than for others and we don’t know why this is so—we only know that it is.

Mother Teresa may not have had a “mask” or a “cloak” as much as it may have been God’s will to conceal from the world at large the true measure of her holiness—a sort of mini-version of the Mose’ veil.

We poor mortals just don’t know it all. Though we did try it once—in the Garden. It obviously failed.


48 posted on 08/24/2007 11:55:48 AM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: VOA
"Personally, I’m comforted when some evangelist/preacher/pastor admits to never having “heard G-d (personally) talking to them”.

"In Mere Christianity C. S. Lewis tells the story of a man who didn’t think he should have to bother learning theology because he’d had some powerful personal experiences of God. Lewis acknowledges that such experiences may have profound value. Such a person, he says, may claim to know God the way someone who spends a lot of time at the beach may claim to know the ocean. But if you want to cross the ocean, a map would be more helpful than your personal memories of the beach, and if you want to journey toward a deeper knowledge of God, theology is a sort of map that will help you more than personal experience alone. Then Lewis makes the point that a map of the ocean is not opposed to experience but is rather based on the composite experience of hundreds of people, and Christian theology is not opposed to experience but is rather based on the composite experience of thousands of people. In the same way, the academic life builds on the experience of tens of thousands of people who have gone before us in any given discipline — people who have thought and written and experimented. We don’t withdraw from experience when we step into the academic world, but we do draw back into a broader view, so that we see not just our own perspective but the perspective of many thinking people all at once."

Dr. Laura Smit
Calvin College

49 posted on 08/24/2007 11:57:47 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: P-Marlowe

Neither one of those say that there is any path to salvation that doesn’t go through Jesus Christ.


50 posted on 08/24/2007 12:00:08 PM PDT by Campion
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To: NYer

This “concern” about Mother Teresa seems pretty coordinated in the news sources this week. Go to Lifeaftertheoilcrash

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/BreakingNews.html

~scroll 2/3rds of the way down to an old Hitchens hitjob on Mother Teresa and this posted in breaking news no less.

What is going on?


51 posted on 08/24/2007 12:04:58 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: P-Marlowe
From a "Catholic" Source:

An extreme traditionalist website that's either schismatic or within a hairs-breadth of it.

52 posted on 08/24/2007 12:05:49 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

“And according to her letters, that’s where she ended up, in doubt, not like you and me, who thankfully have ended up in belief.”

I guess all of us working with the most poor, most destitute, dying and badly treated of the world without seeing much improvement have questions.

Oops. I meant to say the nuns like Mother. I can’t speak for her dying thoughts though. Those are between Mother Teresa and Jesus.


53 posted on 08/24/2007 12:09:14 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Campion
An extreme traditionalist website that's either schismatic or within a hairs-breadth of it.

Shoot the messenger.

Are you denying that she said those things?

Would you be willing to state that anyone who said such things was preaching heresy?

54 posted on 08/24/2007 12:10:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Overall, this is a sad commentary on the teachings of the Catholic Church. Mother Teresa, as a good Catholic, relied on the teachings of the 'Church' to be her 'foundation of faith' and what was the result? A state of confusion and uncertainty.

What is one of the tennets of the Catholic Church? That a person can NOT know if they are saved or not. (The sin of Presumption.)

But is that really what Jesus taught and wanted of His followers? To never really know and to be in a constant state of questioning? No! What's my proof? Well here's a short list...

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Acts 2:21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1John 5:12&13 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Obviously, Mother Teresa placed more faith in the teachings of the Church then in the teachings of the Scripture.

Is living in fear and anxiety about your own salvation a full and abundant life? I certainly don't think so. So why did Jesus say this?

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have [it] more abundantly.

Sincerely
55 posted on 08/24/2007 12:15:13 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: cripplecreek
The fact that she continued doing her good works are evidence she did have faith.

Not necessarily...She maybe loved the attention, and fame...

56 posted on 08/24/2007 12:18:21 PM PDT by Iscool (OK, I'm Back...Now what were your other two wishes???)
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To: HarleyD

Could it have anything to do with her having embraced Hindu gods?


57 posted on 08/24/2007 12:19:46 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

>> “My words are scripture for you,” <<

Sorry. Dr. Eckleberg. It sounds like you’ve got another person like Jack Chick’s friend, “Alberto Rivera.” The only quote (presuming even it is real) from Mother Therese you’ve got is this one:

>> “I love all religions. ... If people become better Hindus, better Muslims, better Buddhists by our acts of love, then there is something else growing there.” <<

That statement is hardly universalism. She doesn’t even say “stronger” or “more faithful” or “more religious,” but just “better.”

I can’t say Mother Therese did NOT have heretical notions, simply because I don’t know her very well. But you’ve made a contemptably weak case.


58 posted on 08/24/2007 12:30:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: ScubieNuc

>> A state of confusion and uncertainty. <<

Her actions demonstrate no confusion or uncertainty. All I know is that some journalist took quotes out of context.

>> (The sin of Presumption.) <<

The sin of Presumption is the notion that commiting moral sin is okay, because it will be forgiven. Catholics absolutely, positively know whether they are in a state of grace, based on Catholic doctrine.

>> Obviously, Mother Teresa placed more faith in the teachings of the Church then in the teachings of the Scripture. <<

Any lack of faith in God is perfectly commensurate with any lack of faith in the teachings of the Catholic Church.

>> Is living in fear and anxiety about your own salvation a full and abundant life? I certainly don’t think so. So why did Jesus say this? <<

Paul said, “Work out your salvation in fear and trembling.”


59 posted on 08/24/2007 12:40:15 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; Dr. Eckleburg
There is only one God and He is God to all;
therefore it is important that everyone is seen as equal before God.
I've always said we should help a Hindu become a better Hindu,
a Muslim become a better Muslim,
a Catholic become a better Catholic.
*- Mother Teresa -*

A Lutheran become a better Lutheran?

A Presbyterian become a better Presbyterian?

An atheist...well we all have limits. :O)

60 posted on 08/24/2007 12:45:12 PM PDT by HarleyD
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