Saint Malachy, Prophecies about 112 popes until the end of the world, the last five Popes

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[Uri’el-2012]

Keys ...... being "the chair of Peter".

129 posted on 10/15/2007 5:09:51 PM MDT by Missey_Lucy_Goosey

When I search the Word of G-d for "Keys" I only find two citations

Matthew 16:19 & Revelation 1:18.

Addressing The citation in Revelation one where the chapter is about the titles and attributes of Yah'shua.

It is clear that Yah'shua has not yet given the keys to the church, but instead they are
promised as a wedding gift to the church in Revelation 19 for use during the Seventh day:
the millennium

shalom b'shem Yah'shua

[Judith Anne]

Thanks, almost everyone here, for derailing this thread. I sure would have enjoyed a discussion of St. Malachi and his prophecies, but this is nothing more than the squabbling of immature, undisciplined children.

Now I remember why I never go to the religion threads—even the ones that sound interesting.

Incidently, I don’t see anyone here who has any right to represent him or herself as a Christian. This is the worst I’ve seen in a while. Most of you act as though your intention is to give Christians a bad name. Frankly, you have succeeded here.

[Uncle Chip]

Seattle has 7 hills also, but all we rule is the coffee kingdom :>)

24:7 no doubt. No wonder they're sleepless in Seattle.

[MrsEmmaPeel]

Sorry. I don’t get it. If St. Malachy is correct and there is only one more Pope after the current, is that enough for you to give up your faith? If St. Malachy was only writing prophesy to as far as he could see, would that be enough for you to give up your faith?

If St. Malachy was totally wrong, is that enough for you to give up your faith?

[Missey_Lucy_Goosey]

While you are looking, maybe you can find some more novel redefinitions of modernist Rome that has redefined the following dogmatic canon from Vatican I:

If anyone should say that the true Church is not one body in itself, but consists of varied and diverse societies of Christian name, and is spread out among them, or that various societies disagreeing among themselves in profession of faith and separated by communion, constitute, as members or parts, the one and universal Church of Christ, let him be anathema. --First Vatican Council, Canon IV

Vatican II and the "Dominus Iesus" now says we are "separated brethren", contradicting the previous dogmatic declaration of Vatican I.

[Missey_Lucy_Goosey]

Of course there are the Old Catholics, SSPXers, Sedevacantists and others who say the Roman church led by the Vatican has been apostate since the Vatican I Council.

I've seen that opinion expressed numerous times in this very forum.

So much for Roman Catholicism being the unified monolith it purports itself to be, eh?

[irishtenor]

Sleep? I’ve heard of that.

[Missey_Lucy_Goosey]

Patrick Madrid disagrees with you.

Of that I have no doubt, Madrid is a post Vatican II Modernist who subscribes to the new, novel redefinition of "Viva Voce". He is free to disagree. I would not expect otherwise.

I think he's probably a more cogent authority on Catholic doctrine than you are.

That could be true, or it could not be.

Here is exactly what Trent says in the 4th session.

Furthermore, in order to restrain petulant spirits, It decrees, that no one, relying on his own skill, shall,—in matters of faith, and of morals pertaining to the edification of Christian doctrine, —wresting the sacred Scripture to his own senses, presume to interpret the said sacred Scripture contrary to that sense which holy mother Church,—whose it is to judge of the true sense and interpretation of the holy Scriptures,—hath held and doth hold; or even contrary to the unanimous consent of the Fathers; even though such interpretations were never (intended) to be at any time published. Contraveners shall be made known by their Ordinaries, and be punished with the penalties by law established.

Yet Rome itself interprets Matthew 16:18 in violation of it's own stated principle. As is already noted, two early church fathers, of whom they belong to the overwhelming majority in their interpretation of Matthew 16:18 disagree with Rome's later interpretation, and contradict Rome with an overwhelming majority voice.

[Missey_Lucy_Goosey]

Seems that Rome has been doing a lot of defining of terms and dogmatic declarations.

[Salvation]

Thank you for that post, Sominick. Name calling like that is prohibited.

[Salvation]

When you mention another FReeper’s name, in this case, nanetteclaret, it is FReeper proper etiquette to also ping that person to your post. Please go with the rules and manners of Free Republic.

[Salvation]

Remember that Jesus came for the sinners who were sick. The ones who are well did not need a physcian.

[Salvation]

I didn’t realize that you had accepted some of my theories on several threads about the code words and imageries used in the Book of Revelation.

I do think John was referring to the ‘Rome’ of that day when there were executions, martyrs galore. Not the Catholic Church.

But it appears that you are transferring that interpretation to the Catholic Church. That was not the image intended by John. Am I correct in my judgment about your post here?

[Dominick]

Sorry this didn't go better.

Total Thread Derail....3....2...1....!

[tiki]

As I said, give some proof. You are the one who challenges it, it is up to you to show your side. You just want to say what’s right and what’s wrong without offering any proof whatsoever.

[tiki]

YOPIOS, and if you see this Alex, don’t even bother to respond because I don’t play by your rules either.

[Salvation]

Some words are similar here. But the footnotoes and explanations are very diffierent, I think, xzins, from your interpretations.

Revelation
Chapter 17

1

¹ Then one of the seven angels who were holding the seven bowls came and said to me, "Come here. I will show you the judgment on the great harlot ² who lives near the many waters.

2

³ The kings of the earth have had intercourse with her, and the inhabitants of the earth became drunk on the wine of her harlotry."

3

Then he carried me away in spirit to a deserted place where I saw a woman seated on a scarlet beast ⁴ that was covered with blasphemous names, with seven heads and ten horns.

4

The woman was wearing purple and scarlet and adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls. She held in her hand a gold cup that was filled with the abominable and sordid deeds of her harlotry.

5

On her forehead was written a name, which is a mystery, "Babylon the great, the mother of harlots and of the abominations of the earth."

6

⁵ I saw that the woman was drunk on the blood of the holy ones and on the blood of the witnesses to Jesus. ⁶ When I saw her I was greatly amazed.

7

The angel said to me, "Why are you amazed? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, the beast with the seven heads and the ten horns.

8

⁷ The beast that you saw existed once but now exists no longer. It will come up from the abyss and is headed for destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the foundation of the world shall be amazed when they see the beast, because it existed once but exists no longer, and yet it will come again.

9

Here is a clue ⁸ for one who has wisdom. The seven heads represent seven hills upon which the woman sits. They also represent seven kings:

10

five have already fallen, one still lives, and the last has not yet come, ⁹ and when he comes he must remain only a short while.

11

The beast ¹⁰ that existed once but exists no longer is an eighth king, but really belongs to the seven and is headed for destruction.

12

The ten horns that you saw represent ten kings who have not yet been crowned; ¹¹ they will receive royal authority along with the beast for one hour.

13

They are of one mind and will give their power and authority to the beast.

14

They will fight with the Lamb, but the Lamb will conquer them, for he is Lord of lords and king of kings, and those with him are called, chosen, and faithful."

15

Then he said to me, "The waters that you saw where the harlot lives represent large numbers of peoples, nations, and tongues.

16

The ten horns ¹² that you saw and the beast will hate the harlot; they will leave her desolate and naked; they will eat her flesh and consume her with fire.

17

For God has put it into their minds to carry out his purpose and to make them come to an agreement to give their kingdom to the beast until the words of God are accomplished.

18

The woman whom you saw represents the great city that has sovereignty over the kings of the earth."

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Footnotes

¹ [1-6] Babylon, the symbolic name (Rev 17:5) of Rome, is graphically described as "the great harlot."

² [17:1-19:10] The punishment of Babylon is now described as a past event and, metaphorically, under the image of the great harlot who leads people astray into idolatry.

³ [2] Intercourse . . . harlotry: see the note on Rev 14:4. The pagan kings subject to Rome adopted the cult of the emperor.

⁴ [3] Scarlet beast: see the note on Rev 13:1-10. Blasphemous names: divine titles assumed by the Roman emperors; see the note on Rev 13:5-6.

⁵ [6] Reference to the great wealth and idolatrous cults of Rome.

⁶ [6b-18] An interpretation of the vision is here given.

⁷ [8] Allusion to the belief that the dead Nero would return to power (Rev 17:11); see the note on Rev 13:3.

⁸ [9] Here is a clue: literally, "Here a mind that has wisdom." Seven hills: of Rome.

⁹ [10] There is little agreement as to the identity of the Roman emperors alluded to here. The number seven (Rev 17:9) suggests that all the emperors are meant; see the note on Rev 1:4.

¹⁰ [11] The beast: Nero; see the note on Rev 17:8.

¹¹ [12-13] Ten kings who have not yet been crowned: perhaps Parthian satraps who are to accompany the revived Nero (the beast) in his march on Rome to regain power; see the note on Rev 13:3. In Rev 19:11-21, the Lamb and his companions will conquer them.

¹² [16-18] The ten horns: the ten pagan kings (Rev 17:12) who unwittingly fulfill God's will against harlot Rome, the great city; cf Ezekiel 16:37.

[Salvation]

**Cincinnati is also a 7 hilled city, but it doesn’t rule over the kings of the earth.

Neither does Jerusalem.**

Neither does the Rome of today.

[tiki]

Please name them and supply links to the posts.

[Salvation]

**There’s only one Truth **
The

One
Holy
Catholic
and
Apostolic
Church.