It looks like albp poster Don Hanson is sticking up for us, and is also exposing Charles Austin for exactly what he is!!!! Austin is not the only denizen of Higgins Road and liberal synodical offices who does such things, either. Our poor synod, which was once orthodox and blessed with greatness, has similar horrible goings-on. Kyrie eleison!
In past albp threads, several posters have noted the disruptive effect of at least Austin’s and Brian Stoffregen’s posts. (A “troll” is the same thing as a “disruptor”, which is my preferred term.) Disruptor posts (and non-disruptors’ necessary reactions to them) have greatly lowered the value of the albp forum for Orthodox Christians, and for others of God’s people—Lutherans included. (The “Lutheran Forum” magazine is still very worthwhile, however.)
What we, acting as Freepers, say about disruption on alpb is no different from what several thoughtful orthodox alpb posters have said already. It just seems to be hitting home more, perhaps because of the “outrageous language” and screen names.
As for my disparagement of the “New York Times”, it has nothing to do with some shallow “I’m a conservative and the NYT is liberal” argument. One has only to look at my tag-line to see the reason. The New World Order Times not only bashes Serbs and supports stealing their historic lands, but backs the whole evil “The World is Flat” globalist agenda. Some of the same NWO highhandness is exercized by ELCA mis-leaders when they, for example, forced that intolerable feminist liturgy down our throats. It is that move that is forcing me and many others out of the ELCA.
The alpb forum thread on FR goes on and on and on.
So far, not only the layman Don Hansen, but also Pastor Rob Moskowitz and the poster with the screen-name Sublime_Harbinger have stood up for us Freepers. A most hearty thanks to all of you. And may God bless you abundantly for your worthy witness.
Sublime_Harbinger says:
.....I just read the original link to the other Forum [FR], and while I’m not sure I’d want to spend alot of time over there, I do agree that there is a rampant amount of trolling and personal attacks that go on here. I’m a member of several different forums across cyberspace, and a moderator for a set as well, and some of what passes for discussion here would earn warnings and bans elsewhere. The thread, if nothing else, is a good reminder for us to watch out language, so to speak.....
So Sublime_Harbinger agrees with us that the alpb forum has become infected with disruptor posts.
As if to prove both Sublime_Harbinger’s and our contention, the entire thread has degenerated into a mud-fest of personal attacks. The good moderator Richard Johnson finally had to weigh in with a reminder to “love one another”. We’ll see if that gentle reminder cools some of the passions over there.
The revisionist posters on alpb have been doing what they accused us “freeper creepers” of doing. But have been doing it BIG TIME!!!! That is typical of “mainline” revisionists—accusing others of doing what they’re doing, a la the beginning of Romans 2!
The revisionists on alpb accuse us Freepers of being “hateful” and “unloving” for telling the truth that they do not want to face. That is reminiscent of the bashing of leading theologian Karl Donfried in “The Lutheran” by the ELCA revisonists, also for telling the truth. (How convenient that Pr. Donfried was being put up for Presiding Bishop, to oppose the revisionist Mark Hanson.) Of course, the alpb forum revisionists would NEVER equate bashing us with bashing Karl Donfried, since we are only lowlife “freeper creepers”. But they forget that we are not profesional gutter-journalists, but Lutheran lay leaders and orthodox Lutheran pastors. So the “freeper creeper” label is just, once again, a lame excuse to avoid facing the truth. “Mainline” revisionists are good at making lame excuses!!!
And ELCA revisionist mis-leaders show hateful, unloving behavior all the time. In our once-great synod, we have a fast diminishing number of faithful STS pastors. These are regularly bashed in synod assemblies and blacklisted by our revisionist “bishop” and the “bishop’s” cadre of sycophantic pastors and lay leaders. The “crimes” of the STS pastors for which they are punished include opposing the feminist liturgy and “gay” ordinations and “blessings”, and attempting to get orthodox voting members for CWA’s elected. (Of course, “Lutherans Concerned’s” lobbying efforts are NEVER opposed by our revisionist “bishop”.)
We have lost several STS pastors in our synod to retirement and other ways by which they leave the active pastoral ministry. Of the two STS pastors in the synod whom are left and whom I know, one (who is older) cannot wait to retire and become a Roman Catholic, and the other, who is under 40 and has a young family, doesn’t know what he is going to do. All this is the fruit of the hateful, unloving, bashing behavior of the revisionists. And there is NOTHING more unloving than saddling the flock of the ELCA with that intollerable feminist liturgy, and those “altered” hymns designed solely to satisfy a small cadre of mean-spirited feminists!!!!
So the revisionist posters on alpb do not have a leg to stand on when they label Lutheran FreeRepublic posters as “creeps” and “haters”. They should apologize to us at once, and more importantly apologize to the flock that God has entrusted to them for their gross mis-leadership!!!!
And if the moderators of the alpb forum wish to restore its quality, they shoud recast it as an orthodox forum only. Then readers like me who only have a limited amount of time will be able to benefit from the forum, without having to filter out the disruptor posts and the reactions that they generate.