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To: Lord_Calvinus; Uncle Chip
The gentiles are coming is the proof of the prophetic fulfillment to the council.

But futurists dispies don’t get it. They think that James citing Amos needs to be read through the lens that places all the emphasis on events in our future.

In fact, whenever they read "Israel" or "David" or "tabernacle" anything remotely Jewish sounding in the NT their thoughts automatically leap forward thousands of years. They can no longer focus on the text.

That’s because in dispensationalism earthly Israel and not Christ is the object and fulfillment of many if not most of the OT prophecies. They truly believe that the promises were made to national Israel, rather than to Christ as the Seed of Abraham per Paul’s words in Galatians 3.

It’s impossible for them to imagine that Peter’s words in 1 Peter 2:9,10 were intended to communicate that the Church made up of both Jews and gentiles is the inheritor of the place formerly help by national Israel.

Their continued emphasis on earthly Jerusalem and earthly Israel is really an indication that they do not understand the real nature of the promise God made to His people (Gal. 4:24,25).

800 posted on 11/01/2007 11:57:35 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54
It’s impossible for them to imagine that Peter’s words in 1 Peter 2:9,10 were intended to communicate that the Church made up of both Jews and gentiles is the inheritor of the place formerly help by national Israel.

Completely inaccurate statement and understanding...

We did not replace Israel...There are three positions here, not two...

Israel we can say is on the left...The Gentiles are on the right...Christians are in the center...

Gentiles come from the right to the center to become Christians...Israel comes from the left to the center to become Christians...

That why there is no difference between Jew and Gentile, AS CHRISTIANS...

Shortly God will be done calling the Gentiles on the right...He will again focus his attention on his chosen on the left...

We do not become Isreal any more than Israel becomes Gentiles...

802 posted on 11/01/2007 12:06:01 PM PDT by Iscool (What if Jesus meant everything that He said...)
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To: topcat54

***That’s because in dispensationalism earthly Israel and not Christ is the object and fulfillment of many if not most of the OT prophecies. They truly believe that the promises were made to national Israel, rather than to Christ as the Seed of Abraham per Paul’s words in Galatians 3.***

Perzackly!!!

Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as of many, but as of one, “And to your Seed,” who is Christ.


809 posted on 11/01/2007 12:20:39 PM PDT by Lord_Calvinus
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