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Answering the "Replacement Theology" Critics (Part 1)
American Vision ^ | 10/7/2005 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 10/26/2007 9:00:59 PM PDT by topcat54

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A blast from the past:

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1 posted on 10/26/2007 9:01:01 PM PDT by topcat54
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; HarleyD; suzyjaruki; nobdysfool; jkl1122; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Dr. Eckleburg; ...
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"For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled." (Luke 21:22)

2 posted on 10/26/2007 9:03:50 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: topcat54

Worthwhile article. Thanks for posting it.


3 posted on 10/27/2007 4:49:00 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: topcat54
The Reformation Theology blog today has link to what may be a helpful resource.

A pdf of Nathan Pitchford's recent pamphlet What the Bible Says About the People of God. 40 pages of relevant scripture references.

4 posted on 10/27/2007 7:36:58 AM PDT by Lee N. Field ("Dispensationalism -- threat or menace?")
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To: topcat54

No wonder Reformation theology is associated with the Swiss.

It’s as full of holes as their famous cheese!


5 posted on 10/27/2007 2:23:47 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: topcat54

Good article (and so true).

Thanks.


6 posted on 10/29/2007 4:35:07 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: topcat54

BTW, to paraphrase Hanegraaff from his book “Apocalypse Code,” one can only pray and do all that’s permissible to see that this “pseudoeschatology” (i.e. dispensationalism) “will fade into the shadowy recesses of history.”


7 posted on 10/29/2007 4:51:14 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: PetroniusMaximus
No wonder Reformation theology is associated with the Swiss. It’s as full of holes as their famous cheese!

Intelligent, thought-provoking comments are always welcome.

8 posted on 10/29/2007 6:34:23 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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To: tabsternager
"BTW, to paraphrase Hanegraaff from his book “Apocalypse Code,”"

Hanegraaff took a very Preterist view in his book that I did not find very convincing.

9 posted on 10/29/2007 6:45:10 AM PDT by joebuck
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To: PetroniusMaximus

The author would do well to place far more faith in Romans Chapter 11 than his contrived contention.

The author manifests the same lack of faith which resulted in the some branches being broken off from the olive tree.

IMHO, I fear the Lord because I know how many times I might be equally as unfaithful in not realizing how incredibly great the Great Tribulation will be.


10 posted on 10/29/2007 7:06:25 AM PDT by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: topcat54

Those who believe the Great Tribulation fail to abide in Him through the guidance provided in Romans 11:25.

If the reformed assertion were to be true, then no Gentile believer could come from the Reformation because Romans was written circa 55-58 AD and the the fullness of the time of the Gentiles would have concluded 12 years later, resulting in no valid Church ever being formed beyond that 12 year cycle.

Accordingly, the Reformers devotion to the Great Tribulation having transpired circa 70 AD removes their branch from the olive tree, if true, at least for those Reformers who were originally Gentiles.

God doesn’t refer to it as the Great Tribulation simply because one town was decimated. Many larger tribulations have occurred to believers in Him since then, and it is well understood that there will never be a time on earth so troublesome as the Great Tribulation.


11 posted on 10/29/2007 7:22:02 AM PDT by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Cvengr
Those who believe the Great Tribulation fail to abide in Him through the guidance provided in Romans 11:25.

I'm not following your thought process here. Can you make it a bit clearer?

12 posted on 10/29/2007 7:57:56 AM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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“it is well understood that there will never be a time on earth so troublesome as the Great Tribulation.”

Something to consider:

Exodus 11:6: There will be loud wailing throughout Egypt—WORSE THAN THERE HAS EVER BEEN OR EVER WILL BE AGAIN.

Joel 2:2: a day of darkness and gloom,
a day of clouds and blackness.
Like dawn spreading across the mountains
a large and mighty army comes,
SUCH AS NEVER WAS OF OLD
NOR EVER WILL BE IN AGES TO COME.

Daniel 9:12: Under the whole heaven NOTHING HAS EVER BEEN DONE LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO JERUSALEM.

Also, as I think Hanegraaff made a great point, that the Great Flood left only 8 survivors on the whole Earth. It’s hard to believe the future “Great Tribulation” could be worse than that.

That’s what, I believe, is apocalyptic hyperbole that Christ used, using Old Testatment language (language which He often did reference).


13 posted on 10/29/2007 8:33:01 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: joebuck

“Hanegraaff took a very Preterist view in his book that I did not find very convincing.”

At least you read it. It appears that a lot of people are closed to even considering the differing views of Bible prophecy.


14 posted on 10/29/2007 8:39:30 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: topcat54
“Intelligent, thought-provoking comments are always welcome.”

Thanks for the compliment!

I’m glad you enjoyed my post.

15 posted on 10/29/2007 11:28:59 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: topcat54

My apologies.

Those who believe the Great Tribulation has already occurred, fail to abide in Him through the guidance provided in Romans 11:25.


16 posted on 10/29/2007 11:58:56 AM PDT by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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To: Cvengr
Those who believe the Great Tribulation has already occurred, fail to abide in Him through the guidance provided in Romans 11:25.

It still does not make any sense. How does one "fail to abide in Him" merely because one happens to disagree with the futurist/dispensationalist interpretation of events like the "great tribulation"?

17 posted on 10/29/2007 12:05:12 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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Hanegraaff took a very Preterist view in his book that I did not find very convincing.

If that’s not to your liking, you might try something like The Last Days according to Jesus by RC Sproul or Postmillennialism: An Eschatology of Hope by Keith Mathison.

18 posted on 10/29/2007 12:10:14 PM PDT by topcat54 ("Friends don't let friends listen to dispensationalists.")
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“you might try something like The Last Days according to Jesus by RC Sproul or Postmillennialism: An Eschatology of Hope by Keith Mathison.”

I’ve always had immense respect for RC Sproul in general and have read “The Last Days According to Jesus.” The other one I haven’t read yet, but now that you’ve mentioned it, I’ll look for it.


19 posted on 10/29/2007 1:53:12 PM PDT by tabsternager
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To: topcat54

Don’t ask me, ask Him, by faith alone in Him alone, through the guidance provided in Romans 11:25. Let God do all the work in your thinking.


20 posted on 10/29/2007 2:50:07 PM PDT by Cvengr (Every believer is a grenade. Arrogance is the grenade pin. Pull the pin and fragment your life.)
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