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To: NYer
Demons tempt and persecute people, he said, but if they get inside the person, that’s obsession; when the devil has complete control over the person, that’s possession.

My guess is that there are a lot of demonically "oppressed" people too. My understanding of demonic oppression is where the demons are outside the person, but constantly attacking. I think I had a year long experience with it myself. I was chatting on-line with a nasty atheist when a wave of gloom washed over me. It was very abrupt and unusual. I felt like the floor had dropped out from under me. For over a year I was preoccupied with heretical ideas that I couldn't get out of my mind. About a year and a half later, I felt the gloom lift as suddenly as it had come upon me... Don't want to go through that again.

9 posted on 10/29/2007 11:18:11 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Aquinasfan
There is a terrible price a demon pays for wrecking your peace. The more a spirit not of God messes with you, the greater it’s pain when it's tossed into Hell. This isn’t opportunity to feel smug over Justice, but it can be the understanding and mastery over demons lurking at the door. “Mess with me and I’ll loose St Mike and my Guardian Angel to have fun with you, Praise Jesus.”
10 posted on 10/29/2007 4:25:09 PM PDT by SaltyJoe (Lenin legalized abortion. Afterward, every life was fair game for Death)
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To: Aquinasfan
My understanding of demonic oppression is where the demons are outside the person, but constantly attacking.

It can be interior too. One of the methods of spell casting is ingestion. I'm sure Fr.'s talk was informative and interesting, but I get concerned when priests claim victims bring it on themselves. That is not true in all cases. Most of the saints suffered terribly. Think of the Ladder of Divine Ascent icon.

Also, there is a fine distinction between oppression and obsession which I've never seen well delineated.

14 posted on 10/30/2007 2:08:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Romney Republican)
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