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Please let me remind everyone that this is a translation. It was an Italian paper, an informal conversation, not a position paper or even a statement nailed to the door of St. Peter’s Basilica, Fellay is French, and we read English, and so many are ready to jump to conclusions.

The SSPX has always maintained they are inside the Church; some Cardinals apparently agree. No way they are changing that stance in such an interview. That remark alone throws much doubt on the translation and on many of the points made in this thread.

The SSPX needs some pruning no doubt but I don’t understand why Catholics seem anxious to cut ties with some of their own.

I don’t see this interview as changing anything in the relations.

It was an Italian paper, an informal conversation, not a position paper or even a statement nailed to the door of St. Peter’s Basilica, Fellay is French, and we read English, and so many are ready to jump to conclusions.

Fair enough. Can you post a link to the original French text and the Italian newspaper? I read both languages fluently.

I haven’t seen either version (French or Italian) but someone who had seen the French said that the phrasing was more suggestive of “coming back into the structure,” that is, the juridical control of the Church. That seems like a more logical option.

I notice nobody has taken up the more important thing he said, however, which was about the documents of VatII.

Personally, I think they suffered from so much vagueness that you could find whatever you wanted in them. And many evil people did just that, and have invoked VatII as their reason for doing everything from clown masses to women’s “ordination.”

I think there would be nothing wrong in seriously reexamining the documents and seeing if there are some clarifications that should be made. VatII was not a doctrinal council and did not mandate the things that were later done in its name. But the fact that it is cited by so many evil people as a pretext for their bizarre actions makes me think that it wouldn’t be a bad idea to reexamine and perhaps officially interpret some of its documents.

The SSPX schismatics and excommunicati are NOT our own as ruled by Pope John Paul II. They were excommunicated and expelled from the Roman Catholic Church. That this or that cardinal either does not get the picture or refuses reality (including Dario Cardinal Castrillon de Hoyos) does not give any cardinal the authority to overrule papal judgements. The Church too has a rule of law, even as a papal monarchy. The pontiff may act in spite of Canon Law of which He alone is the legislator. Cardinals, schismatics and excommunicati are not given that authority by anyone and most certainly not by God.

The "conclusions" were those of the judgment of Pope John Paul II in Ecclesia Dei and not of posters here. SSPX, its excommunicated and schismatic leaders and its adherents remain defiant, disobedient, disrespectfulof papal authority, and revolutionaries against Holy Mother the Church to this day with few noted exceptions.