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To: Forest Keeper
I thought the very first churches were basically autonomous.

They were. The churches selected their Elders and Deacons. It was after the Apostolic Era ended that there began to be a push for a hierarchal system. The justification for this was to combat heresy.

As with all things that man does to try and improve on God's plan it didn't work out.

13 posted on 11/06/2007 12:08:09 PM PST by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: wmfights
The churches selected their Elders and Deacons. It was after the Apostolic Era ended that there began to be a push for a hierarchal system.

Then why does St. Paul direct Titus to "appoint presbyters in every town"?

Maybe that "push" started with the Apostles themselves.

14 posted on 11/06/2007 12:17:36 PM PST by Campion
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To: wmfights
FK: "I thought the very first churches were basically autonomous."

They were. The churches selected their Elders and Deacons. It was after the Apostolic Era ended that there began to be a push for a hierarchal system.

OK, thanks much for the confirmation. I knew I remembered your saying that before. :)

25 posted on 11/06/2007 11:27:28 PM PST by Forest Keeper (It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.)
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