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Gloria Romanorum ^ | 11/10/07 | Florentius

[Antoninus]

Gone are the days when Jesuit priests were virile men who fully embraced the Catholic Faith and prayed to be worthy of a martyr's crown. Let's play "compare and contrast", shall we? First, here's a tale from the 1640s in the upstate New York wilderness:

He [Fr. Isaac Jogues] did not yet know the cause of his companion's [Rene Goupil] death; but the old man who had caused him to be slain having invited him, some days later, to his cabin, and giving him food, when the Father came to offer the blessing and express the sign of the Cross, that Barbarian said to him: "Do not do that; the Dutch tell us that that act is of no account. Know that I have had thy companion killed for having made it upon my grandson; the like shall be done to thee, if thou continue."

The Father answered him that this sign was adorable; that it could not do anything but good to those who should use it; that he had no intention of giving it up. That man dissimulated, for the time, and the Father employed no reserve in this devotion,—asking nothing better than to die for having expressed the mark and sign of the Christian. [Taken from The Jesuit Relations]

Now fast forward about 360 years to the cozy confines of a formerly Catholic American university located about 300 miles from the spot where Fr. Jogues was brutally martyred for his devotion to the Catholic Faith:

Before a packed church of some 400 on the campus of the famed St. Joseph's University, Father Thomas J. Brennan announced that he is homosexual. During the Mass he spoke of his homosexuality as one of "the worst kept secrets" on campus....Fr. Brennan, S.J., is an Assistant Professor of English at the University, who on his website lists "lesbian and gay studies" under "general fields of professional interest". The announcement came at the 10pm Mass to a congregation of mostly students and a smattering of alumni. [Source: Lifesite]

And now a brief historical note on how such an announcement might have been greeted in the past:

In that year [A.D. 528] some of the bishops from various provinces were accused of living immorally in matters of the flesh and of homosexual practices. Amongst them was Isaiah, bishop of Rhodes, an ex-praefectus vigilum at Constantinople, and likewise the bishop from Diospolis in Thrace, named Alexander. In accordance with a sacred ordinance they were brought to Constantinople and were examined and condemned by Victor, the city prefect, who punished them: he tortured Isaiah severely and exiled him and he amputated Alexander's genitals and paraded him around on a litter. The emperor [Justinian] immediately decreed that those detected in pederasty should have their genitals amputated. At that time, many homosexuals were arrested and died after having their genitals amputated. From then on there was fear amongst those afflicted with homosexual lust. [Source: Jeffreys, Elizabeth, Michael Jeffreys, and Roger Scott, trans. (1986) The Chronicle of John Malalas: A Translation. Australian Association for Byzantine Studies: Melbourne, p. 253.

Now, I'm not saying that we should bring back the punishment of castration for priests who have a homosexual compulsion. But for Christ's sake (and I mean that quite literally), can not such men who proudly broadcast that compulsion and scandalize the faithful be removed from public ministry? Or at the very least, be removed from contact with young people?

Or have the last 40 years of outrage, abuse, and lawsuits taught us absolutely nothing?

Cardinal Rigali, call your office.

[Antoninus]

Or perhaps we should call Cardinal Rigali's office 1.) to make sure he's aware of this and 2.) to encourage him very politely to do something about it.

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[Antoninus]

Ping as you see fit. This stuff has got to stop!

[StAthanasiustheGreat]

Geesh, The Jesuits have fallen so far. It is truly a shame and a travesty.

[353FMG]

John Paul II, on his visit to Brasil was introduced to a well-know controversial Jesuit with the words: “This is father so-and-so (his name escapes me) and he is a Jesuit. The Pope answered: “I know that you are a Jesuit, but are you Catholic?

[Kolokotronis]

“Know that I have had thy companion killed for having made it upon my grandson....”

May God forgive me for the first thing that popped into my mind!

[narses]

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[Salvation]

I agree that it must stop. Pray for the Jesuit order. They CAN come back to orthodoxy. Many of the older leaders are passing away, and new orthodox leaders are stepping into the breach.

The pendulum has swung far to the left and is now a little right of cetner — pray and watch.

[Antoninus]

I agree that it must stop. Pray for the Jesuit order. They CAN come back to orthodoxy. Many of the older leaders are passing away, and new orthodox leaders are stepping into the breach. The pendulum has swung far to the left and is now a little right of cetner — pray and watch.

I do pray for them. If you look at the original Lifesite article, though, you'll see a photo of Fr. Brennan. He's not an old guy. He's very young.

Based on my experiences with the Jesuits (8 years of Jesuit education), it's my opinion that, with a few notable exceptions, the order is a wholly owned subsidiary of the lavender mafia.

A new suppression may be in order.

[Antoninus]

John Paul II, on his visit to Brasil was introduced to a well-know controversial Jesuit with the words: “This is father so-and-so (his name escapes me) and he is a Jesuit. The Pope answered: “I know that you are a Jesuit, but are you Catholic?

Sad. Just sad.

[Ottofire]

>Gone are the days when Jesuit priests were virile men...

virile |?vir?l| adjective (of a man) having strength, energy, and a strong sex drive. See note at male.

Strength, good. Energy, good. A strong sex drive, well, in a celibate priest, problematic.

[Antoninus]

Strength, good. Energy, good. A strong sex drive, well, in a celibate priest, problematic.

Uh, virile (from the Latin vir meaning "man") can mean all of those things. It doesn't have to mean all of them at the same time. Kind of like calling someone your "dear friend" doesn't mean they're a horned quadruped.

Checking the definition of "virile", I see the word has three possible meanings:

1. Having the characteristics of an adult male.
2. Able to carry out the male sexual function.
3. Showing strength or forcefulness.

Clearly, by connotation, #3 is meant here.

Perhaps a better word could have been chosen, though.

[PGR88]

I attended a well-known Jesuit Univ. in the mid 80’s. I would bet that 30%-50% of those priests under 40 years old were (actively) homosexual. Not a lot of holiness there.

[Antoninus]

I attended a well-known Jesuit Univ. in the mid 80’s. I would bet that 30%-50% of those priests under 40 years old were (actively) homosexual. Not a lot of holiness there.

Wow, you actually had priests at your well-known Jesuit university? The few priests at mine were usually only trotted out on parents' day. The rest of the time, the wore "civies" and blended into the rest of the population. Not exactly salt adding savor. I had two for class. One was an older fellow--not a scintillating lecturer, but at least he wasn't outwardly anti-Catholic.

The other was a younger Philipino priest who I never saw in his clerical garb. He was supposed to teach an intro to Western Philosophy class, but we spent about 70% of it discussing the insipid works of Michel Foucault, the French homosexual destructive critic of Western Civ who focused almost entirely on themes of sex, torture, and death. I don't think the name "Thomas Aquinas" was mentioned once...