Posted on 11/17/2007 4:58:28 PM PST by BGHater
That is the difference between the Bible and the Book of Mormon...the Bible has been overwhelmingly substantiated by archaeology. And there is evidence for the Exodus, despite what this author states.
Your stretching gets more ridiculous by the post.
Cha-ching!
And no response to your post? I thought I’d see lots of disclaimers posted with facts to back it up! :)
Then, don't you believe the statement should have been labelled an assumption, at least, instead of a certainty?
I wasn't there...and nobody I know was there...so I don't have the foggiest idea what Quetzalcoatl really looked like -- nor how those who first saw him viewed themselves.
However, I tend to believe in the Ancient American foundation of pre Columbus trade between countries across the Atlantic and pacific oceans.
In order to post facts, well, you need facts. Fairy tales are not facts, but some people have a helluva time telling the difference between the two.
But Hebrews were (and are, for the most part) Caucasian. That is, they are of the “white” race, or Europids, which include much of the population of the Indian subcontinent, the Near East, North Africa, as well as Europe and places settled by Europeans.
By some counts, the Europids are the largest of the five major races, followed by the Mongolids, and the Negrids. Much smaller in population are the Australids na d the Khoisanids.
Jesus was a Jew, and a Near Easterner, and most likely looked like people from that part of the world (which gives quite a bit of latitude for appearance, as there is much variety there), but he was definitely of the white race, broadly defined, and therefore Caucasian.
You stated that he was claiming to have done more than Jesus in general, which is ridiculous.
No I never saw Jesus either and yet I can say that I am reasonably certain (given the Biblical record) that he was a Semitic Jew and that any reasonable person seeing a Mayan and a Semitic Jew side by side would call the Semitic Jew white in comparison.
The complexions of Semitic Jews and Mayans are too close in comparison for such a description to hold up to reasonable discussion.
Your grasping and semantic straws here.
Having seen pictures of temple carvings of what the Maya thought Quetzalcoatl looked like I would have to say the Maya did not think he look Jewish.
Wow, you are really deluded in your interpretation of some very obvious statements. I know it’s hard for you to let go, but you are following a lie.
So far as I know, Milligan had no connection with the Mormon Church, but he was a maverick in his field because he believed more of the ancient American peoples came from the south, probably by sea, and moved northward rather than migrated over the Bearing Strait land bridge as is more popular in the field.
Most compelling about Ed's theory was not the ancient legends which collaborated it, but the observable fact that the level of ancient civilization decreased rather than increased when moving south to north. If the Bearing Straight theory was such an ironclad fact, then we ought to have ruins along the coast of say, modern day British Columbia which rival those of the Inca in Peru.
Sorry, that is a simplistic version of prehistory.
Civilizations arose around the world in areas with specific conditions. British Columbia does not have those conditions.
The conditions favoring civilizations are those which favored agriculture. In rich hunting/gathering areas, such as British Columbia, native groups followed a different path, and achieved high populations and cohesive social organizations, based on hunting/gathering and specialization, but not agriculture.
In other, less rich areas (semi-arid or arid deserts with good water supplies), agriculture was an alternate path. It often led to agricultural surpluses (to last the winter), which in turn often led to walled cities and part-time armies to protect that surplus from marauders.
So far as I know, Milligan had no connection with the Mormon Church, but he was a maverick in his field because he believed more of the ancient American peoples came from the south, probably by sea, and moved northward rather than migrated over the Bearing Strait land bridge as is more popular in the field.
The DNA studies do not support this idea. Following is a link to a very recent article on the DNA of the founding New World populations. It is titled Beringian Standstill and Spread of Native American Founders, by Erika Tamm et al. (2007).
“NEWLY FOUND ALTARS FROM NAHOM”
LOL Find me an unbiased site. Not BYU!
Chinese also use the blood of a lamb to indicate forgiveness. Does this mean they were Jews??? HAHAHa
Quite interesting.
William G. Dever (head of Near Eastern Studies Department and professor of Near Eastern archaeology and anthropology at the University of Arizona), a non-Mormon biblical archaeologist claims that it should never be supposed that the purpose of archaeology was to ‘prove’ the Bible in any sense” (Dever, 1990a, 26; italics added). He notes elsewhere:
The Bible . . . has its limitations as a historical document. . . . The myths of Genesis 1-11, comprising the primeval history,” which deal with the creation, the flood and the distant origins of the family of man, can be read today as deeply moving literature, with profound moral implications. They inform us about the thought-world of ancient Israel, but they can hardly be read in the literal or modern sense as history. (Dever, 1990b, 52.)
And,
...while archaeology has been able to document in general the pastoral nomadic lifestyle depicted in Genesis throughout the second millennium B.C. (and other periods), it has not brought to light any direct evidence to substantiate the story that Abraham lived, that he migrated from Mesopotamia to Canaan, or that there was a Joseph who found his way to Egypt and rose top power there. ...The tradition is made up of legends that still may be regarded as containing moral truths, but until now they have been of uncertain historical provenance. ...Absolutely no trace of Moses, or indeed of an Israelite presence in Egypt, has ever turned up. Of the exodus and wander in the wilderness— events so crucial in the Biblical recitation of the mighty acts of God”— we have no evidence whatsoever; nor are we likely to have any, since slaves, serfs, and nomads leave few traces in the archaeological record. (Dever, 1990a, 24.)
...after a century of modern research,” writes Dever, neither Biblical scholars nor archaeologists have been able to document as historical any of the events, much less the personalities, of the patriarchal or Mosaic era” (ibid., 5).
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